[DotA] gamerlevelasian@asia.battle.net & pr0-supp0rt@useast.

[Hatedmaru]

Game link (if known): https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=4399687
Game name: [ENT] DotA apem us/ca #56
Your Warcraft III username:
Violator's Warcraft III username: gamerlevelasian@asia.battle.net & pr0-supp0rt@useast.battle.net
Rule player violated: Planting mates in different teams to allow abuse fountain farming
Time of violation (specify whether you are using in-game or replay time): at 30 minutes the fountain farm started, at 50 mins only furion remains (since others left, but since they are mates, furion won't !ff and allow them to free boost stats)
Any further thoughts:

Well just happened to find these guys as watching replays, and noticed the obvious abuse (void 156/3/66) ... As watching the replay, they did fountain farm and destroy fountain, and thats ok ... The problem is when furion simply won't !ff since they are mates and allows them to fountain farm at will (i played vs them in the game after ) and happened to find out they are actually mates.

PS: its not the first time ppl report him: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=40788 ;

Fountain farming is allowed, but if the opponent starts to fountain farm excessively and there is little to no chance of comeback, members of the losing team should !ff. Not agreeing to !ff when all other team members have clearly given up can be ban-able. --> Ofc this could never happen and sentinel started quitting, since furion (their mate) would never !ff

Also if you check through their log during this game, you will notice their talking writing this:

(56:41 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: rahsta u fucked it up
(56:43 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: pink DONT RAX
(56:48) Mile_High_Club killed potmonly
(56:49 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: dont kill furion
(56:50 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: let him d
(56:51 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: lanes
(56:58) Mile_High_Club killed Joe-Banana
(57:00) Pr0-Supp0rt killed iPampers.
(57:01) Mile_High_Club killed yggdrasil
(57:21 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: dont kill furoin again
(57:24 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: we need him to d the lanes
(57:25 / Allied) Joe-Banana: k
(57:26 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: so rax dont die
(57:40) Mile_High_Club killed ihatedota
(57:45 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: farm them all night
(57:46 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: gay team
(57:49) Mile_High_Club killed potmonly
(57:50 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: dont rax
(57:51 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: just farm
(57:59 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: brown u stop[ us from rax

(86:37 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: dont push lol
(86:40 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: i will stop killing
(86:40 / Allied) Joe-Banana: si tu?
(86:42 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: promises
(86:48 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: let me get 1x rax mid

(93:09 / Allied) WoKeR: i gotta
(93:09 / Allied) WoKeR: go

(93:16 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: dude u can go then
(93:16 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: its np
(93:19 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: arent u goin to bed?
(93:22 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: the ban is only 2 hours

(94:00 / Allied) WoKeR: cant
(94:06 / Allied) WoKeR: my brother taking over my comp
(94:09 / Allied) WoKeR: so no time
(94:10 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: im not letting you end bro
(94:11 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: sorry

(100:58 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: guys if you have to go, go ahead
(101:00 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: its no big deal
(101:03 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: the ban is only 2 hours

[TooSad]

First of all, I try to kill the fountain almost every game. Second, furion was my friend (Mael) but he absolutely tried to win this game up to the point of the fountain dying. No one was planted from the beginning to do anything. You can look at his score, items, farm, etc. He was doing extremely well up to that point. Third, and most importantly, there were TWO players (furion and one other) who did not FF, and no one tried to kick either or said anything about it. After a while, the other players left or went AFK and got kicked. I'm well aware of the fountain farming rules, as I've made clear in my other posts. If someone had started a votekick on either player for refusing to FF, I would have voted !yes in compliance with my obligation.

So why did furion let our team farm his team after they left? He was pissed at them for talking massive shit and being complete assholes all game. Maybe not the best move on his part, but not even remotely the same thing as planting to throw a game and then achieving the same result.

In sum, nothing that happened this game fell within any stated ENT rule. It was also hilarious.

1. Furion wasn't planted. He was trying to win the game, up to the point at which it clearly wasn't going to happen. You can see this in the first 40 minutes of the game.
2. The fountain kill/farm was itself legal (although I understand these rules are currently under revision).
3. There were two sentinel holdouts on the !ff vote, so neither player made any difference in that respect.
4. No one ever started a votekick, so there was no refusal to votekick by scourge.

The current rules put the burden on the sentinel team to start a votekick on furion and the other holdout if they wanted the game to end. These guys were nonstop shittalking and didn't care about the game itself, so they didn't do that.

[Hatedmaru]

Its obvious Furion was simply allowing you to fountain farm all night long ... so plz

(56:41 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: rahsta u fucked it up
(56:43 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: pink DONT RAX
(56:48) Mile_High_Club killed potmonly
(56:49 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: dont kill furion
(56:50 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: let him d
(56:51 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: lanes
(56:58) Mile_High_Club killed Joe-Banana
(57:00) Pr0-Supp0rt killed iPampers.
(57:01) Mile_High_Club killed yggdrasil
(57:21 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: dont kill furoin again
(57:24 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: we need him to d the lanes
(57:25 / Allied) Joe-Banana: k
(57:26 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: so rax dont die
(57:40) Mile_High_Club killed ihatedota
(57:45 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: farm them all night
(57:46 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: gay team
(57:49) Mile_High_Club killed potmonly
(57:50 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: dont rax
(57:51 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: just farm
(57:59 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: brown u stop[ us from rax

So dont tell me furion, ur friend, dind't let u fountain farm on purpose -.-' it was obvious that 1 hour and half was completely on purpose to allow u to fountain farm. Anyways ill leave it for admins to review and decide, i do hope they can clearly see what happened here.

[mael]

Hello, I am Mael, the furion from this game. I fully admit I allowed scourge to farm my leaver team for an extended period of time. Noone tried to kick me and noone left in the game felt it was a game delay. After the first few minutes we took it as a challenge to see how long we could prolong the fountain farm.

To my knowledge, fountain farm was legal. I admit we took slight advantage of this but I am not aware of any rule that was actually broken. I was tired of playing with my friend (and 2 others - Skeleton King and Phantom Assassin) as the games were to easy. I fought against them and tried to win up to the moment my team fountain was killed and people from sentinel began to leave.

I also find it pathetic that this sad sack who posted for this wasn't even in the game. This child was throwing a temper tantrum after losing a very stacked game to better players.

Dear ENT mods - please make the rules more specific. If you think we went overboard, which I admit is likely, just let us know and we won't do it anymore.

At the end of the day we were trying to have fun while in game.

Thanks,

Mael

[Stealer]

Noone tried to kick me and noone left in the game felt it was a game delay.

(43:47 / Allied) potmonly: fucking ff
(43:47 / Allied) potmonly: it

(50:21 / Allied) iPampers.: can we ff now?

(42:43 / Allied) yggdrasil: om fuck it lets leave
(42:45 / Allied) yggdrasil: bye
(42:48 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: yggdrasil has left the game voluntarily.

(45:28 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: potmonly has left the game voluntarily.
(45:28 / QUIT) potmonly: Left

(45:33 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: ihatedota has left the game voluntarily.
(45:33 / QUIT) ihatedota: Left

So to recap, 2 of them verbally did not like the lack of people ff'ing.
3 of them did not like it so much they left the game approx 1 hour before it ended.

---

I think this is covered by the rules. Why the other ones did not report I do not know but they certainly did not like it.

@nabo.

[Hatedmaru]

Losing a very stacked game? 1st of all, wonder why you call it stacked, when your the one with 2k elo accounts and smurfing with lower (yes its allowed to play with new accounts, never said it wasn't, but don't tell me you weren't stacking either with ur 2 mates: Dan & Mushi as you said during that game) and 2nd if you recall it good, i did tell you "yes you won fair and square this game" ... so really can't see your point. Anyways both of you seriously need to learn how to read:

(39:37 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: [yggdrasil] has voted to forfeit. - 1st !ff
(40:52 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: [iPampers.] has voted to forfeit. - 2nd !ff
(42:19 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: [potmonly] has voted to forfeit. - 3rd !FF
(42:19 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: 3/5 players on the Sentinel/West have voted to forfeit.
(45:33 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: ihatedota has left the game voluntarily. --> theres ur 4th player that never forfeited which means it was only furion missing to !ff

(50:19 / Allied) iPampers.: !ff - he tries to !ff once again
(50:21 / Allied) iPampers.: can we ff now?

and since ur so called friend Mael dind't !ff - (51:09 / All) Pr0-Supp0rt: iPampers. has left the game voluntarily.

Ok sentinel indeed dind't votekick furion when they noticed (Could be a matter of them being noobs and not knowing the votekick fact, w/e), but their entire team had !ff, yet ur furion planted mate dind't !ff cuz? "he hated his enemies team and wanted to let them be raped ..." Sure

This was all planted since the beginning:

(00:23 / Allied) Mile_High_Club: we gonna kill fountain
(00:33 / Allied) Mile_High_Club: dont rax

(01:58 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: pink
(01:59 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: listen
(02:02 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: dontEVER rax
(02:10 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: we're killing fountain

for me the most lol was when pink actually asks you this after ur sentences: (02:23 / Allied) WoKeR: you guys friends?

(02:25 / Allied) Joe-Banana: gonna rax it fast if possible

(02:29 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: stfu brown lol (Brown being Joe-Banana)
(02:31 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: we're fountain killing
(02:33 / Allied) GamerLevelAsian: do it with us

So if you really wanna say you dind't break any rules during the game ... Now explain how this rule was never broken "Deliberately helping the enemy team by giving items or intentionally feeding." - You just clearly said furion let you INTENCIONALLY feed on his team. kk ty

And even if one wans't enough: theres a 2nd for you: Fountain farming is allowed, but if the opponent starts to fountain farm excessively and there is little to no chance of comeback, members of the losing team should !ff. Not agreeing to !ff when all other team members have clearly given up can be ban-able.
--> All ur team had !ff, except furion so wanna say something about it?


So really ... go tell me how you dind't plan all along ... and the fact this only happened so hard the moment UR FRIEND was in the enemy teams -.-' all ur other games this could never happen since there was no planted friend to not !ff to allow you doing that, so yes, now keep saying to make rules more specific and how this wasn't planted at all. From here on, ill simply watch the result of it.

[nabo.]

Idc if you are mad that you got owned in another game and decided to report.

Idc if you guys went overboard and took advantage of how flexibly or generally we worded the rules(if they are).

Rules are there mostly for you guys because you guys seem to lack common sense to act appropriately in games.

Topic locked until another mod or I review this.

Edit:

There was 0 reason for the game to go on after the fountain got destroyed. The game got delayed too long forcing other players to leave the game. I see 0 reason why any member of the winning team couldnt just rax and finish the game = clear intentions to stats farm.

pr0-supp0rt@useast and gamerlevelasian@asia banned 4 weeks for purposely ruining the game and boosting + these accounts will get stats wiped. Seems like these two originally had the intention of playing against each other competitively, but after dispute with teammates, furion decided to ruin the game and refuse to !ff resulting in letting the other team fountain farm to the extreme. Intentional or not, it was a form of boosting.

woker@europe, dotamoronic@uswest, mile_high_club@uswest, joe-banana@europe banned 3 weeks + stats wipe.