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[DOTA] [LOD] lemmings; tot; bananaharvest; mugen; f-train

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:38 am
by Jiminy_Cricket
Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=5500529
Game Name: [ENT] DotA LoD -sdems6bod2 #64
Your Warcraft III Username: jiminy_cricket
Violator's Warcraft III Username: lemmings; tot; bananaharvest; mugen; f-train
Violated Rule(s): bug abuse and not drawing the game.
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): permanent scorched earth bug. We told F-train for 15 minutes straight he had a bug and he just denied it/ignored us. Just ran around killing everyone with permanent scortched earth. For ten mins he just said, "what bug?" His team failed to !draw the game since bug was being used. Appropriate ban requested for all scourge who just wanted to win rather than play a fun fair game. Lemmings !draw at the very end when tree was falling does not count. When you see a bug everyone needs to !draw and everyone needs to admit it.
Any further thoughts: F-Train as a moderator you should know better. If you get a bug, show some leadership and ask everyone to draw the game. Dont just run around and act like it aint a bug.

Re: [DOTA] [LOD] lemmings; tot; bananaharvest; mugen; f-train

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:50 am
by F-Train
well I tried to pick a fun build to play with against u, all fire skills. I did not plan on abusing any bug alright? :) When i checked replay at lvl 1 and 2 scorched earth it was not permanent. ingame I didn't notice I had a permanent scortch earth until I died and revived with it. You asked for a !draw, and i did. Your teammates didnt even draw the game when i paused at the end, nothing I can do about that since players are not forced to draw. @hyorinmaru.
-scorched earth duration is somehow bugged at lvl 3 and 4. tooltip says lasts 14 seconds and cd is 25. using the skill again doesnt change anything.
-my first skill (fire lord's fire wall) didnt do anything at all, just an animation

Re: [DOTA] [LOD] lemmings; tot; bananaharvest; mugen; f-train

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:29 am
by Jiminy_Cricket
(15:30 / All) Jiminy_Cricket: train why bug abuse?
(15:34 / All) Jiminy_Cricket: u know its broke
(19:18 / All) Jiminy_Cricket: you bug abuse
(19:22 / All) F-Train: bug abuse?
(19:22 / All) F-Train: w0t
(20:10 / All) pleasewritedown: infinirte fire undying?
(20:12 / All) pleasewritedown: lol
(20:15 / All) pleasewritedown: wath a bugg
(23:49 / All) FUQJU: dat glitch is bannable
(23:56 / All) FUQJU: disconnect!
(24:47 / All) Jiminy_Cricket: ftrain why you bug abuse?
(25:02 / All) F-Train: no
(25:06 / All) F-Train: what bug
(25:46 / All) Jiminy_Cricket: you gonna make me report you?
(25:54 / All) F-Train: k
(29:01 / All) Jiminy_Cricket: you have permanent scortched earth
(29:22 / All) F-Train: well it says
(29:24 / All) F-Train: lasts 14 sec
(30:35 / All) Jiminy_Cricket: fucking cheater
(30:47 / All) F-Train: i no cheat
(30:49 / All) F-Train: died 3 times
(31:00 / All) Jiminy_Cricket: youre bug abusing
(31:17 / All) F-Train: what u want me to do

He didnt draw till the very end and he never once told his allies to draw the game cause it was unfair. They all just wanted the win.

If you read his own post on what you should do when you get a bugged game it's hard to understand why he doesnt follow his own directions:
https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.p ... ov#p216624

Even if YOU DID discover the glitch by accident, presuming that glitch is gamebreaking, it is your responsibility to leave the game immediately. + you can easily appeal the ban. But you chose to stay in the game and pretend that you didn't know anything until the end of the game.

Re: [DOTA] [LOD] lemmings; tot; bananaharvest; mugen; f-train

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:30 am
by F-Train
U said I already knew the glitch, which is not true. i had no intention of abusing bug. I simply picked a fun build. the bug was not gaming breaking since it only lasts 11 seconds longer. not like the invincible bug where u can just walk to enemies fountain and not die. Lod is broken u should know.

Re: [DOTA] [LOD] lemmings; tot; bananaharvest; mugen; f-train

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 4:13 pm
by i_am_safe
I don't often side with Jiminy but this is odd, the replay provided here is stamped 26 Mar 2015 05:25:18 MSK and F-Train claims he doesnt know about bug, but in replay https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=5499416 , which is stamped 26 Mar 2015 01:22:49 MSK , he is shown the bug :

(00:56 / Allied) SafeHeaven: and lucifer scorched fire
(00:57 / Allied) F-Train: yea?
(01:02 / Allied) SafeHeaven: if u take those 2
(01:06 / Allied) F-Train: looooooooooool and gg?
(01:11 / Allied) SafeHeaven: it glitches lucifer scorched permenent
(01:17 / Allied) F-Train: no
(01:22 / Allied) SafeHeaven: i played
(01:24 / Allied) SafeHeaven: with crix
(01:28 / Allied) SafeHeaven: 40 min scorched
(01:30 / Allied) F-Train: scorched earth is permanent in this version
(01:35 / Allied) F-Train: no matter what skill u pick
(01:37 / Allied) F-Train: ^^
(01:39 / Allied) cheetah666: solo mid
(01:42 / Allied) ultragodlike: mid
(01:44 / Allied) SafeHeaven: lasts 14 sec
(01:44 / Allied) F-Train: bugged indeed

What the hell is going on here?

Re: [DOTA] [LOD] lemmings; tot; bananaharvest; mugen; f-train

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:15 am
by Hatedmaru
After reviewing:

First - 25 Mar 2015 22:22:49 WET - http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 499416.w3g

He was about to tell you about the bug, yet you openly admitted you already knew about it.

Spoiler!
(00:37 / Allied) SafeHeaven: brown i found bug
(00:42 / Allied) F-Train: ?
(00:50 / Allied) SafeHeaven: mortal wounds from talon queen
(00:50 / Allied) F-Train: w0t
(00:56 / Allied) SafeHeaven: and lucifer scorched fire
(00:57 / Allied) F-Train: yea?
(01:02 / Allied) SafeHeaven: if u take those 2
(01:06 / Allied) F-Train: looooooooooool and gg?
(01:11 / Allied) SafeHeaven: it glitches lucifer scorched permenent
(01:17 / Allied) F-Train: no
(01:22 / Allied) SafeHeaven: i played
(01:24 / Allied) SafeHeaven: with crix
(01:28 / Allied) SafeHeaven: 40 min scorched
(01:30 / Allied) F-Train: scorched earth is permanent in this version
(01:35 / Allied) F-Train: no matter what skill u pick
(01:37 / Allied) F-Train: ^^


The game reported was on 26 Mar 2015 02:25:18 WET (which means it was after the first one, where you admitted you knew about this) - http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 500529.w3g

You knew precisely the bug with scorched earth, yet you picked the skill

(19:18 / All) Jiminy_Cricket: you bug abuse
(19:22 / All) F-Train: bug abuse?
(19:22 / All) F-Train: w0t
(20:10 / All) pleasewritedown: infinirte fire undying?
(23:49 / All) FUQJU: dat glitch is bannable
(24:13 / All) F-Train: DAt burn
(24:47 / All) Jiminy_Cricket: ftrain why you bug abuse?
(25:02 / All) F-Train: no
(25:06 / All) F-Train: what bug
(25:46 / All) Jiminy_Cricket: you gonna make me report you?
(25:54 / All) F-Train: k
(29:22 / All) F-Train: well it says
(29:24 / All) F-Train: lasts 14 sec -> you obviously knew for a long time it dind't last for 14 secs...
(30:34 / All) F-Train: oh sheet
(30:35 / All) Jiminy_Cricket: fucking cheater
(30:47 / All) F-Train: i no cheat
(30:49 / All) F-Train: died 3 times
(30:53 / All) F-Train: 0.0

Even if we took the fact it was already known to you this bug/glitch, after the first death, you should have simply left and appeal after -The whole game you played knewing what was going on (Dont tell me you never noticed the fire animation following you the entire game ...), and simply played till game is over (You could have left or simply ask for a !draw), yet no actions were taken by your side until the very end.

Banning f-train@entconnect for 5 days for glitch abuse.

Thanks for reporting

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