[Dota] blackhat@useast

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[Dota] blackhat@useast

Postby fleedom » Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:31 pm

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=5536299 https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=5538937
Game Name: [ent] dota apem us/ca #20, [ent] dota apem us/ca #19
Your Warcraft III Username: fleedom@europe
Violator's Warcraft III Username: blackhat
Violated Rule(s): mh
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): All of these are in dota time, not replay or game time.
apem us/ca #20
10:36 (Dota time, not replay time) Low suspicious wait
15:55 Blink duel sb in fog.
22:45 Blink and a wait for pl over cliff, who didn't come. Decides to back off without dust. The only suspicious part was the wait.
23:14 Really suspicious blink to run away from charging sb. Didn't even finish off neutral creeps.
24:35 Seems to always know when sb is charging.
26:33 Perfect timing on roshan call. Wasn't even a question.
28:28 Again, knows when sb is charging without vision.
29:04 Seems to know which path the scourge heroes took. Really suspicious wait at 29:11, as if preparing for a gank without any vision.
34:23 Runs away from a sb charge.
35:11 A bit too precise.
36:20 The turn around right when weaver used time lapse, was a bit iffy, like he knew where weaver was.
38:42 Bkb before a battle? Of course he knew when the team fight was gonna start, turning on bkb 2 seconds before any vision.
41:51 Probably the only duel on pl that was a bit suspicious. No dust the whole game.

apem us/ca #19
12:14 Seems to know how many sentinel heroes are in their jungle, as well as a suspicious "top b" call. 12:30 Really perfect timing on the help heal.
15:03 Runs away right when sb is charging. Again. Didn't even finish the ballista creep.
25:06 Suspicious blink duel sniper in fog, when 3 were missing. Knew sniper was solo?

Any further thoughts: He does try to cover up his mh somewhat. However, the fact that he runs every single time there's a charging sb really makes me think he mhs.

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Re: [Dota] blackhat@useast

Postby bagelmanman » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:13 pm

Guaranteed maphacker as his actual player skill at last hitting and using abilities is poor. But his map awareness is perfect, aka maphacking and knows whenever a gank is coming / enemies in jungle. Still fun to beat him and make him rage :D

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Re: [Dota] blackhat@useast

Postby ReapersPowers » Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:02 am

He's actually a pretty good player. I've played with and against him a few times, no sign of mh. I don't even have to watch this replay to know you're most likely off your mark. But admins can do your thing and check.

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Re: [Dota] blackhat@useast

Postby pineapplez » Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:49 am

This is blackhat from us east realm. Times are game-time .

[ent] dota apem us/ca #20

10:36 was not waiting, I was looking around the mini map and once weaver came into vision I focused on killing him
15:55 after finishing off neutral creeps I probably blinked to the river to check rune or take short cut around the map. But sb was there, almost full hp, plus his teammates were all nearby and I failed to kill him. If I knew his teammates were there, I wouldn’t have dueled him in first place.
22:45 as you can see, I didn’t blink on pl and I had no vision of him the entire time. I scouted their entire woods in the OPPOSITE direction of pl towards the 3 camps.
23:13 so while scouting from 22:45, at the 3rd creep camp i found DK and dueled him, he was alone but scourge team has vision of me. It only makes sense that sb charge or an attempt for gank would come any time soon.
24:35 this one doesn’t even require an explanation, sb was in perfect vision from mid lane plus i didn't back as i was with my team.
26:33: all 5 enemy heros were missing from all lanes for entire 40 seconds which I was paying attention to, timing may seem perfect and that is just coincidence. I had ac and deso at this point and tried baiting them mid instead. I didn’t even go near roshan to check, it was an assumption and I was right that they rushed
28:28 I was backing even before sb charged … they grabbed ageis and group push would’ve come any time soon. All of my teammates were near me and were backing and I told them at this exact time to try and turtle for defense
29:04 “seems to know which path scourge took” I don’t know what you mean by that but my team was chasing them through mid lane and I wouldn’t chase alone towards the jungle when my team is not.
34:23 sb charged and I didn’t react at all … I finished the creep wave and I was alone pushing deep so I just blinked back. You can see I blinked a lot of times from lanes in and out regardless of enemies ganks or presence near by.
35:11 I was snow balling with my teammates , we were all walking towards the same direction to scout weaver. Once I gained vision I blinked and dueled, few seconds later sb came in and killed me. If I map hacked I would’ve dodged this beforehand.
36:20 my entire team turned around when weaver time lapsed and this was back to push the lane as creeps were in and it only makes sense weaver would appear back to their base since he invis ran from there.
38:42 no 1 was near by me but we had the vision of the scourge’s ENTIRE team and my teammates were already engaged in battle. Of course I bkb before hand and enter the fight to avoid blade mail damage and disables during duel, and we lost the team fight.
41:51 for 15 seconds i didn’t duel any pl because they were illusions that were losing hp very fast from undying’s ult aura AND radiance.

[ent] dota apem us/ca #19

12:14
in the mini map, 5 heroes are missing from all lane, and 2 of them were in vision where they left their lanes towards river. Keep in mind that because I picked LC, they will always know im jungling when im not in lane, so i backed.
12:30 no explanation required
15:03 finished the creep wave actually and backed to go jungle, and bat was in the lane.
25:06 I wasn't going for sniper at all. They were going to try to end the game as 5, like they had been pushing as 5 all game. I knew that our only chance was to try to make the fight 4v5 by picking off someone before the push got to our base, so I was hoping to find a straggler in the back as they pushed bottom lane. I didn't care who it was. As it played out, I got killed. Obviously didn't know exactly what I was running into.

I don't map hack and this player was not even in the game with me, and no players in the game accused me either.
this ban request is wrote really biased .
thanks for reading.

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Re: [Dota] blackhat@useast

Postby gameboss » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:28 am

i have seen blackhat plays and hes good but i too think he mhacks. he has "6" sense for avoiding ganks somehow.

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Re: [Dota] blackhat@useast

Postby fleedom » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:32 am

10:36 was not waiting, I was looking around the mini map and once weaver came into vision I focused on killing him

Yes, you were waiting for weaver to kill him..
15:55 after finishing off neutral creeps I probably blinked to the river to check rune or take short cut around the map. But sb was there, almost full hp, plus his teammates were all nearby and I failed to kill him. If I knew his teammates were there, I wouldn’t have dueled him in first place.

"Probably". You almost did kill him. If you were checking rune, you would have blinked to the rune, not to sb. Again, you are just convincing me you mh.
22:45 as you can see, I didn’t blink on pl and I had no vision of him the entire time. I scouted their entire woods in the OPPOSITE direction of pl towards the 3 camps.

Yes, because a blink on pl would have been too obvious. I said you "tried" to cover up your mh. I never blamed your gank on dk as mh. Just the pause before scouting led me to believe you were waiting for pl, without wanting it to look too obvious.
23:13 so while scouting from 22:45, at the 3rd creep camp i found DK and dueled him, he was alone but scourge team has vision of me. It only makes sense that sb charge or an attempt for gank would come any time soon.

"It makes sense that sb charge". It makes sense every time sb charges, I get it.
24:35 this one doesn’t even require an explanation, sb was in perfect vision from mid lane plus i didn't back as i was with my team.

Ok, I concede.
26:33: all 5 enemy heros were missing from all lanes for entire 40 seconds which I was paying attention to, timing may seem perfect and that is just coincidence. I had ac and deso at this point and tried baiting them mid instead. I didn’t even go near roshan to check, it was an assumption and I was right that they rushed

You didn't go near because you would have died. If they were gone for 40 seconds why didn't you call earlier? It's the timing that makes me suspicious. If you were off by 3-5 sec, I would understand. This combined with everything else is just too much.
28:28 I was backing even before sb charged … they grabbed ageis and group push would’ve come any time soon. All of my teammates were near me and were backing and I told them at this exact time to try and turtle for defense

You were full health when you backed... to "heal" at the fountain. You didn't go near the fountain, until sb was charging. Maybe you backed a little bit, but I don't think you would have went all the way to the fountain.
29:04 “seems to know which path scourge took” I don’t know what you mean by that but my team was chasing them through mid lane and I wouldn’t chase alone towards the jungle when my team is not.

This is probably the most obvious one now. You didn't even have vision of them going through mid lane into the jungle. They could have went directly to mid tower or even bot tower. And yet you somehow knew they stopped in the jungle.
34:23 sb charged and I didn’t react at all … I finished the creep wave and I was alone pushing deep so I just blinked back. You can see I blinked a lot of times from lanes in and out regardless of enemies ganks or presence near by.

You didn't finish the whole creep wave. You were about to attack the ranged creep and you stopped midway... to run away from a sb charging in fog.
35:11 I was snow balling with my teammates , we were all walking towards the same direction to scout weaver. Once I gained vision I blinked and dueled, few seconds later sb came in and killed me. If I map hacked I would’ve dodged this beforehand.

The blink was a bit precise is what I meant. If you scouted first, it would make sense. It takes awhile for sb to charge and you can't run in the middle of a duel.
36:20 my entire team turned around when weaver time lapsed and this was back to push the lane as creeps were in and it only makes sense weaver would appear back to their base since he invis ran from there.

The problem was the timing was instant, like less than 0.5 sec. If you didn't have mh, you would have to react and think where weaver was b4.
38:42 no 1 was near by me but we had the vision of the scourge’s ENTIRE team and my teammates were already engaged in battle. Of course I bkb before hand and enter the fight to avoid blade mail damage and disables during duel, and we lost the team fight.

You had vision when you blinked. However, you did not have vision when you activated bkb, which was like way before b4 blink. You maybe had vision of 1-2 heroes by then and you were too far to duel silencer. It could have ended up in a chase rather than a team fight if only silencer and weaver were there, and you would have activated bkb a bit later, maybe right before blink.
41:51 for 15 seconds i didn’t duel any pl because they were illusions that were losing hp very fast from undying’s ult aura AND radiance.

This one wasn't really suspicious so I concede.

[ent] dota apem us/ca #19
12:14 in the mini map, 5 heroes are missing from all lane, and 2 of them were in vision where they left their lanes towards river. Keep in mind that because I picked LC, they will always know im jungling when im not in lane, so i backed.

But you knew perfectly when the 5 heroes were about to gank sniper and you were in range at the exact right time.
12:30 no explanation required
15:03 finished the creep wave actually and backed to go jungle, and bat was in the lane.

You attacked the ballista and stopped midway, to dodge a charging sb in fog, again.
25:06 I wasn't going for sniper at all. They were going to try to end the game as 5, like they had been pushing as 5 all game. I knew that our only chance was to try to make the fight 4v5 by picking off someone before the push got to our base, so I was hoping to find a straggler in the back as they pushed bottom lane. I didn't care who it was. As it played out, I got killed. Obviously didn't know exactly what I was running into.

So you concede you knew they had a straggler? Why have I never seen you rambo into 5 heroes? Usually only after you almost kill someone, do you get ganked. Yet you coincidently blink near a straggler?
I don't map hack and this player was not even in the game with me, and no players in the game accused me either.
this ban request is wrote really biased .
thanks for reading.
I believe silencer accused you of mh in apem #20.
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Re: [Dota] blackhat@useast

Postby bagelmanman » Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:42 am

Almost comical to watch him dodge each and every gank, rationalizing it by saying he is playing careful. Yet he will blink blindly into solo enemies because obviously he can see where all the enemies are and it is safe.

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Re: [Dota] blackhat@useast

Postby SoItWASYOU » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:59 am

I watched the replay other times werent obviously too suspiscious but the time at jungle where he was jungling and suddenly he jumps out as bara got close is fairly obvious mh he ran do omni knwoing bara got close, also he daggers in aroud their jungle when they were all missing to gank dk which makes no sense to me he daggers like he knows there is no one else there when it is 5 ppl missing and he dives in like he knows when they are not there. Also another charge from bara he runs away and overall this guy goes in to their jungle way too much without vision just daggering in even if their whole team is missing he still goes alone but obviously not when there are actualy ppl together he only going alone when they are alone. Its what i saw from my view like ive mentioned the other times werent too suspicious but the one at jungle how he didnt finish and another one in the lane he randomly dagger out not finishing creep and the fact that he dives in their jungle with lc when all 5 msising alone seems fairly funny let admin do their work now.

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Re: [Dota] blackhat@useast

Postby pineapplez » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:21 pm

Well what a witchunt on a new forum ids. I believe i gave a clear and detailed explanation to the noted times (watch the replay, you'll know how much is exaggerated) and these responses are ridiculous in terms of how biased, unclear, unreasonable they are. No one on forum cares about opinion based comments from people with no credibility.

Funnier thing is about 4 time slots the requester mentioned are so ridiculous even he ended up admitting that that wasn't worth noting and that he was wrong when i explained above.

I talk specifically with references from the gameplay while some of you would like to get creative here with words saying im comical or have six senses and etc.

Don't make bull shit claims that i dodge all ganks or something like that when you can't even give a reasonable references in the game play.

Gms will look and know.
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Re: [Dota] blackhat@useast

Postby bagelmanman » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:44 pm

There are a lot of legit 2k players, you are not one of them and deserve no respect... sorry! It is fairly obvious you try to mask your maphacking but get way too greedy and avoid things you would never be able to anticipate were coming.

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