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Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 537299.w3g
Game Name: dota apem us/ca #81
Your Warcraft III Username: pantagruel
Violator's Warcraft III Username: bannedfromdota
Violated Rule(s): 6 minute afk, late picking.
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 0:00 to nearly 7:00
Any further thoughts: bannedfromdota picked late and fed the entire game, contributing almost nothing to the team. I am uncertain whether he is a troll or just extremely bad. His excuse for late picking was:
"(09:49 / Allied) BannedFromDota: i was sleeping"
If you check bannedfromdota's stats, you'll see he regularly has these games where he gets one or two kills and many more deaths. He picks heroes like furion, storm and SB, so he can actively escape battles instead of participating in them, leading to an appalingly low assist count as well. No one should have to play with this total loser.

The closest we got to kicking was needing 3 more votes. MBTS, Newis, MaDgestic12 and KomecA did not vote to kick. Bafflingly, my own team did not want to kick this loser. They could all use bans as well.

sealman wrote:Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 537299.w3g
Game Name: dota apem us/ca #81
Your Warcraft III Username: pantagruel
Violator's Warcraft III Username: bannedfromdota
Violated Rule(s): 6 minute afk, late picking.
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 0:00 to nearly 7:00
Any further thoughts: bannedfromdota picked late and fed the entire game, contributing almost nothing to the team. I am uncertain whether he is a troll or just extremely bad. His excuse for late picking was:
"(09:49 / Allied) BannedFromDota: i was sleeping"
If you check bannedfromdota's stats, you'll see he regularly has these games where he gets one or two kills and many more deaths. He picks heroes like furion, storm and SB, so he can actively escape battles instead of participating in them, leading to an appalingly low assist count as well. No one should have to play with this total loser.

The closest we got to kicking was needing 3 more votes. MBTS, Newis, MaDgestic12 and KomecA did not vote to kick. Bafflingly, my own team did not want to kick this loser. They could all use bans as well.

OK, first off I don't like your attitude. If you want something you should be respectful and polite to everyone including the player. He went 1-8-10 Which is not too bad for a 51 minute game "feeding wise" although he could have participated more, but he seems like he isn't very knowledgeable about the game either. Not every one is good when they first play DOTA, so maybe help him and don't flame? He can only get better right? So there is no reason to kick this guy seeing he was highest level on team so seems like he made up for his 7 minute afk. Your brq is on him being afk. He didn't do it intentionally, and obviously he wasn't grieving by being afk all game.

Fair point on being respectful. I guess I shouldn't call him a loser.

He seems perfectly knowledgeable about the game. His account has 500+ games. Thus why I can't determine if he just lacks skill or is really trolling. He makes the right items, he knows how to quickly dip out of fights. His low assist rate is also concerning. His account has more deaths than assists. His reluctant, opportunistic play style indicates why that is.

Sure, he made his levels up. That isn't hard to do. His teammates were killing high lvl opponents all around him. This will quickly catch a player up in XP, but will not catch him up in gold or usefulness to the team.

And his name "Bannedfromdota" would indicate some prior knowledge of both dota, and the fact that you can get banned from a server. This isn't a new account of some nooby who just bought WC3. The name would also indicate some level of antipathy for "playing nice" or "playing as a team", as he's probably received bans before this account.

Even if his 6 min afk may not have been intentional (impossible to determine) but is being asleep any better? Its just incompetence. Don't join games if you are falling asleep.

@littlepine

Even if he makes up his time for being afk early on, point is, he still was afk (assuming as I haven't watched replay yet), at critical times and quickly losing time to level- it could have been a complete turning point of the game and it gave the opposite team an advantage as the afk players team was down one until he finally returned.

http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 537299.w3g

Also, something is messed up with the stats page. I did not end the game at lvl 11, I ended at lvl lvl 19. Drow was our highest lvl at 24 not 14. Pugna was 21 not 16. Chaos Knight was 18 not 17. Bannedfromdota did end at lvl 20. Also, the stats page isn't showing my Tranquil Boots.

So something went wrong in how that got recorded, but the replay has it all right.

Owl wrote:@littlepine

Even if he makes up his time for being afk early on, point is, he still was afk (assuming as I haven't watched replay yet), at critical times and quickly losing time to level- it could have been a complete turning point of the game and it gave the opposite team an advantage as the afk players team was down one until he finally returned.

The most obvious way in which his 6 minute afk affected the game was that we quickly lost top tower to Axe. Not sure why, but my teammates decided to double up mid, leaving both bot and top as solos.

More weirdness from the stat recording page, here is how it says I took my skills:

1 03:46 Fire Spirits 1
2 04:15 Fire Spirits 2
3 06:53 Fire Spirits 3
4 09:48 Supernova 1
5 11:56 Fire Spirits 4
6 21:14 Supernova 2
7 32:55 Attribute Bonus 1
8 35:10 Supernova 3
9 37:09 Attribute Bonus 2
10 39:01 Attribute Bonus 3
11 47:42 Attribute Bonus 4

It should be plainly obvious that you can't take supernova at lvl 4, since it is an ult only available at 6. Also, I took dive as my first skill. And I took the fire beam at like 8 I think.

Anyway, the stat page seems to have recorded kills/deaths/assists correctly. But maybe these irregularities should be looked into, to make sure important information isn't being incorrectly recorded.

sealman wrote:More weirdness from the stat recording page, here is how it says I took my skills:

Anyway, the stat page seems to have recorded kills/deaths/assists correctly. But maybe these irregularities should be looked into, to make sure important information isn't being incorrectly recorded.

k/d/r is about the only thing that is recorded correctly most of the time, items that deactivate (i.e. when taking dmg) usually wont show if they are deactivated, sometimes aghs doesnt show and plenty of other odd things. Its kinda the same with skills, rather unreliable.

LittlePine wrote:OK, first off I don't like your attitude. If you want something you should be respectful and polite to everyone including the player. He went 1-8-10 Which is not too bad for a 51 minute game "feeding wise" although he could have participated more, but he seems like he isn't very knowledgeable about the game either. Not every one is good when they first play DOTA, so maybe help him and don't flame? He can only get better right? So there is no reason to kick this guy seeing he was highest level on team so seems like he made up for his 7 minute afk. Your brq is on him being afk. He didn't do it intentionally, and obviously he wasn't grieving by being afk all game.

Firstly, and I mean no disrespect, but this isn't a popularity contest so short of him being directly disrespectful to you or staff its completely irrelevant and detracts from the purpose of this forum for you to call him out on some behavior you can find in just about every single one of these threads to varying degrees. He believes someone ruined his game so naturally hes going to be affected by that in his word choice. Frankly his post is one of the most god damn tamed game ruin/afk grief posts you are likely to find, all he does is call the afker a loser... twice. Yes you always get more flies with honey than vinegar but don't begrudge him for being human and getting agitated by what took place.

NOW to the actual matter of the BR, being afk for the first 7 mins of the game means he had to have come and moved his hero and then gone back afk again for him to not have completely afked out, IN FACT he was afk so long he had to do that twice! And then to use the blatantly trolling excuse of "i was sleeping"? Anyone would understandably be livid.
(09:10 / All) BannedFromDota: wtf
(09:31 / All) pantagruel: six minutes dude
(09:35 / All) pantagruel: kick lvl 1 brown
(09:38 / Allied) BannedFromDota: shit
(09:49 / Allied) BannedFromDota: i was sleeping
(09:51 / Allied) BannedFromDota: im sorry

He doesnt even hit level 2 until 12 mins into game (0:00-12:07). For some perspective, his teammates were 6,7,8, and 8 when he was just getting to lvl 2. You should also download DRM and check the replay for the details because it should instinctually seem implausible that a 1-8 hero ended up being the highest level on the team with a 17-10 drow. Drow was 24 at end and Pug was level 21.

"Feeding wise" you are right, it wasn't nearly as bad as it could of been. You know why? He was hardly in any fights! Total kills for scourge was 52, he was part of 11 of those kills with a hero that can literally blink all around a fight if hes got mana. 10 assists in a 50 min game when the team has a total of 52 kills with his hero in particular is absolutely pitiful. Being a factor in only 20% of you teams kills is usually a sign of game ruin. Shame on you for nitpicking about attitude with such blatant griefing at hand.

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bannedfromdota banned for grieving early game.

5 days

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