Risk Preteam redblood3@europe tropic33@useast lamb4slaughter@europe California@europe

[Setharias]

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=6779937
Game Name: [ENT] Risk Devolution #48
Your Warcraft III Username: Setharias
Violator's Warcraft III Username: redblood3@europe tropic33@useast lamb4slaughter@europe California@europe
Violated Rule(s): Preteaming
Time of Violation (in-game or replay):
Now I realize these are friends preteaming up on friends but their actions are still preteaming especially the ones with blue/green work together, and brown/blue at the end vs me, and them all quitting once I am dead and they are all still alive and could easily play it out. Preteamers like this make the game less enjoyable as they only play for them to be the last ones alive in their friend group then just give up, when risk devo FFA is meant to be played for everyone to go for 1st place and fight hard till there is a winner, not "oh well only us alive GG WP lets join a next one" The only players not in their little preteam skype game was me (grey), Red(scorpius), and purple(minicat)

setharias (Grey)
redblood3 (blue)
tropic33 (green)
California @europe (Dark Green) * This player is not under my initial report, but it seems he was apart of the skype call and in a way teaming with the group of 4
lamb4slaughter @europe (Brown) * This player is not under my initial report, but it seems he was apart of the skype call and in a way teaming with the group of 4

6:56 - 27:07 Blue attacks dark green,
27:08 even though dg is clearly losing and blue is bigger income, green joins the fight and teams against dark green (him and blue have not warred eachother all game to this point and to the very end when the game ends, except for a fake skirmish they do with spawns in ukraine to try and look less guilty, but even brown says it was a fake looking war)

35:30 I make the declaration those two are the preteamers that shared same IP in game lobby and to try and argue it they perform a cheap fake spawn war in ukraine to try and look innocent, but even their friend brown called it out.

Spoiler!

(35:34 / All) lamb4slaughter: jesus
(35:45 / All) lamb4slaughter: loook at the teamers pretend war

38:30 I send a few knights out to attack green since he is teaming dg with blue, and to try and bait out preteaming behavior, in which brown threatens me not to attack him or he will kill me
(38:31 / All) lamb4slaughter: grey
(38:34 / All) lamb4slaughter: dont hit him
(38:46 / All) lamb4slaughter: if you take russia
(38:52 / All) lamb4slaughter: i will have to take the rest of my land
It was this point i started to suspect there was more than blue/green teaming, which in the have more thoughts section i show time stamp chat logs where they admit to having 4, which i later explain at the end section.

42:59 I hit green again in russia and brown again retorts at me
(42:53 / All) lamb4slaughter: grey
(42:58 / All) lamb4slaughter: just let him live in belarus
Also yes chat log and in game log are slightly off.

44:00 dark green moves his soldiers into russia, and here is the 2 time stamps i will show that proves how hard green and blue are teaming.
48:00 green moves his russia troops in the north and blue moves troops from georgia into russia south in order to pin dark green and wipe him out, blue ignoring that brown was hitting him and green ignoring i was hitting him.

49:30 Seeing they are still teaming I go in for belarus to take out green while hes teaming dg in russia.

52:00 I gain the upperhand and at this point you can see blues troops running over to me in belarus from behind completely ignoring dark greens still remaining presence in russia odd huh?

52:50 blue saves green and dark green asks
(52:27 / All) California: so did we ever ID the preteamers?
(52:32 / All) Tropic33: ya it was u
(52:33 / All) Setharias: ya blues trying to save green
(52:41 / All) RedBlood3: yea and dg is california
(52:43 / All) RedBlood3: in a skype call with me
(52:46 / All) RedBlood3: and browns lamb4slaughter
(52:49 / All) RedBlood3: also in a skype call with me
Kind of unintentionally admitting guilt much?

54:30 Blue retreats after clearing me out of the baltics and belarus letting green retake his lands, thats just so damn brainlessly obvious.
54:54 I want to test their preteam skype call theory and I hit brown in sweden and norway and see what happens.
1:04:02 They are all 4 talking crap on me about bans whether ENT cares about risk devo yatta yatta the same stuff i heard from the first 2 bans you guys processed 7 days for me and the other 3 reports I have waiting. The same old ENT wont ban me I didnt preteam no evidence yatta yatta.

At this point I am convinced they are all 4 in a skype call and their only concern is killing everyone else off who is not in their group of 4 which is not how risk devo FFA is meant to be played
(73:11 / All) lamb4slaughter: anyone wanan get some saticfaction
(73:17 / All) lamb4slaughter: by murdering grey
(73:22 / All) lamb4slaughter: theres a whole left side
(73:28 / All) RedBlood3: give me the left side
(73:29 / All) RedBlood3: brown
(73:44 / All) lamb4slaughter: dont want to steal away the glorious murdering
(73:49 / All) lamb4slaughter: form someone else

1:15:30 Blue takes the left brown takes the right and they finish me off, but what cringes me more is what they all do after? DG BLUE BROWN GREEN draw the game, even though it was perfectly playable, risk FFA is not meant to just kill off everyone who isnt your buddy then quit, it is meant for everyone in the game to play solo and with the goal is reaching 1st place victory in mind. It seems now preteamers can easily draw a game and end it unfairly it only takes 4 votes, so like this case if 4 preteamers are in a game even at the very start they could just troll everyone by drawing it and ending it, I would seriously consider fixing this, but I am sure drawing for purposes like this in its self is bannable right? starts at
(77:29 / All) California: !draw
(77:33 / All) Tropic33: !draw
(77:34 / All) lamb4slaughter: !draw
(77:39 / All) California: !undraw
Then all 4 of them just quit giving red the win, when the game was still perfectly play able, if your not in a game to play it as intended those 4 have no business playing risk devo for a little while that is bullshit to anyone like me who plays for 1st place every single time!

Any further thoughts:
*In the lobby it did say this - [System]: Player [Tropic33] has the same IP address as: RedBlood3 - first flag
In game chat they did admit to being friends and being all in a skype call, now this its self is not preteaming, i get it friends do like playing together, that is apart of having a online video game, that is why i excluded the other 2 friends (they claimed to have) from the report as only blue and green had preteaming behavior.

(52:41 / All) RedBlood3: yea and dg is california
(52:43 / All) RedBlood3: in a skype call with me
(52:46 / All) RedBlood3: and browns lamb4slaughter
(52:49 / All) RedBlood3: also in a skype call with me
(53:04 / All) Tropic33: gray we're all four in a skype call
(53:16 / All) Tropic33: also sad
(56:28 / All) Tropic33: we're in a skype call
(56:41 / All) Tropic33: we're in a skype call with blue, brown, dg and me :^ )
(62:01 / All) lamb4slaughter: im in a skype call with them
(72:20 / All) Tropic33: california is in a call with us bro lol

and apparantly right after I was killed, even though the game was definately playable they all said now what? and all drew the game and quit, so it would be arguable that their only goal is being the last players alive in their skype group and then giving up which is against what risk devo FFA is about, which is every player playing it all for the 1st place win. Not just getting you and your buddies to be the last alive then quitting, that is bull crap and ruins the entire fun and purpose of one of ENT bots most popular games.

(76:30 / All) Scorpius_78: Setharias has left the game voluntarily.
(76:30 / QUIT) Setharias: Left
(76:33 / All) Tropic33: bye
(77:20 / All) Scorpius_78: well that was fun to watch
(77:24 / All) Scorpius_78: now what?
(77:27 / All) lamb4slaughter: it felt right
(77:29 / All) California: !draw
(77:29 / All) Scorpius_78: Player [California] has voted to draw the game. 3 more votes are needed to pass the draw vote.
(77:33 / All) Tropic33: !draw
(77:33 / All) Scorpius_78: Player [Tropic33] has voted to draw the game. 2 more votes are needed to pass the draw vote.
(77:34 / All) lamb4slaughter: !draw
(77:34 / All) Scorpius_78: Player [lamb4slaughter] has voted to draw the game. 1 more votes are needed to pass the draw vote.
(77:39 / All) California: !undraw
(77:39 / All) Scorpius_78: [California] recalled vote to draw the game.
(78:44 / All) Scorpius_78: Tropic33 has left the game voluntarily.
(78:44 / QUIT) Tropic33: Left
(78:49 / All) Scorpius_78: RedBlood3 has left the game voluntarily.
(78:49 / QUIT) RedBlood3: Left
(78:53 / All) Scorpius_78: lol
(78:58 / All) California: well ok
(79:00 / All) California: !draw
(79:00 / All) Scorpius_78: Player [California] has voted to draw the game. 1 more votes are needed to pass the draw vote.
(79:04 / All) lamb4slaughter: !draw
(79:07 / All) Scorpius_78: !draw
(79:07 / All) Scorpius_78: The game has now been recorded as a draw. You may leave at any time.
(79:10 / All) Scorpius_78: gg all
(79:12 / All) Scorpius_78: was fun
(79:12 / All) California: gg
(79:13 / All) lamb4slaughter: gg
(79:15 / All) California: ya
(79:17 / All) lamb4slaughter: fuck grey
(79:17 / All) California: wp
(79:21 / All) Scorpius_78: lamb4slaughter has left the game voluntarily.
(79:21 / QUIT) lamb4slaughter: Left
(79:22 / All) Scorpius_78: California has left the game voluntarily.
(79:22 / QUIT) California: Left
(79:33 / All) Scorpius_78: Scorpius_78 has left the game voluntarily.
(79:33 / QUIT) Scorpius_78: Left

Also please be aware if you do ban, just like the 3 (x)emblem and the other reports I have please be on lookout for ban dodging as everyone I have ever reported has said in plain chat things about different accounts, dodging, changing IP's, laning etc....)

I have been holding back making ban request as 3 of my requests are still being waited on for a few weeks, but a game like this comes along and I can't just sit by and ignore it, especially at the overwhelming obviousness and negative obnoxious attitude that the preteaming players had, as if they do not care about ENT and their rules, and the happiness and overall enjoyment of the game of risk devolution and its community. So I will make another request on top of my 3 and hope it gets answered.

[Setharias]

It is customary on my ban requests to also bring up other games the simular preteamers acted in that are same offence, I will be using tropic33's history as it seems to be an alt since only 4 games are played on it so here we go.

https://entgaming.net/findreplay.php?pl ... battle.net this game I skimmed leaving time and chat log to see preteam behavior, apparantly dtrashcan2 who I know as being notoriously against preteam behavior has even accused of preteaming happening here, and yet again tropic33/redblood3/forest]myk (California 's alt) are again admitted to being in a skype call and working together. First I will show they left at the exact same frame the exact second if you will like they did in the game after in which I was in and reported them for doing.
forest]myk europe.battle.net 38.75 has left the game voluntarily
redblood3 europe.battle.net 38.75 has left the game voluntarily
tropic33 useast.battle.net 38.75 has left the game voluntarily
LEFT THE EXACT SAME SECOND ALL 3 !?!?!?!?!?!

Now for chat log

Spoiler!

(32:14 / All) dtrashcan2: Red I would have thought better of you
(32:16 / All) dtrashcan2: then to preteam
(32:18 / All) RedBlood3: okay
(32:27 / All) RedBlood3: i am
(37:05 / All) Forest]Myk: gg redblood
(37:08 / All) RedBlood3: gg myk
(37:29 / All) dtrashcan2: Redblood and Tropic major preteam shame
(37:35 / All) dtrashcan2: Thought you were better then that Redblood
(37:35 / All) RedBlood3: you realize
(37:38 / All) RedBlood3: im in a skype call with myk
(37:39 / All) Tropic33: blue
(37:39 / All) RedBlood3: right?
(37:40 / All) Tropic33: i sucked
(37:41 / All) RedBlood3: as well?
(37:42 / All) Tropic33: the entire time
(37:44 / All) Tropic33: how can u say
(37:46 / All) Tropic33: i had any impact
(37:48 / All) Tropic33: on a preteam
(37:49 / All) dtrashcan2: Yeah but Myk didnt preteam with you
(37:50 / All) Tropic33: and not be fucking retarded
(37:57 / All) RedBlood3: red didnt preteam with me.
(37:58 / All) Tropic33: i BARELY WAS ABLE TO PRETEAM BECAUSE I SUCK
(37:59 / All) RedBlood3: he fought me
(38:03 / All) RedBlood3: then helped me
(38:06 / All) RedBlood3: then fought me again
(38:12 / All) Tropic33: blue ur a big whiner
(38:15 / All) dtrashcan2: Yeah but you didnt kill him for good
(38:21 / All) dtrashcan2: if it was anyone else they be wiped off the map
(38:26 / All) Tropic33: im his brother
(38:27 / All) Tropic33: irl
(38:28 / All) Tropic33: so
(38:29 / All) Tropic33: lol
(38:34 / All) Tropic33: i suck and obviously he'd let me live
(38:41 / All) Forest]Myk: still, it is an ffa
(38:44 / All) dtrashcan2: ^
(38:45 / All) WhyteSpyder: WhyteSpyder has left the game voluntarily.
(38:45 / QUIT) WhyteSpyder: Left
(38:45 / All) dtrashcan2: Forest]Myk has left the game voluntarily.
(38:45 / QUIT) Forest]Myk: Left
(38:45 / All) dtrashcan2: RedBlood3 has left the game voluntarily.
(38:45 / QUIT) RedBlood3: Left
(38:45 / All) dtrashcan2: Tropic33 has left the game voluntarily.
(38:45 / QUIT) Tropic33: Left
(38:45 / All) dtrashcan2: dtrashcan2 has left the game voluntarily.
(38:45 / QUIT) dtrashcan2: Left

So again they admit to all being in a skype call even admitting being brothers in real life. This is staggering.

The other 2 games on his account are uther party but as you can see all the 3-4 people i reported are present

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=6779963

tropic33 useast.battle.net 1.05 has lost the connection (connection error - ECONNRESET)
california europe.battle.net 7.18 has left the game voluntarily
infam uswest.battle.net 7.35 has left the game voluntarily
redblood3 europe.battle.net 6.83 has left the game voluntarily
lamb4slaughter europe.battle.net 7.32 has left the game voluntarily

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=6779340

tropic33 useast.battle.net 16.97 has left the game voluntarily
redblood3 europe.battle.net 16.97 has left the game voluntarily
lucassilver useast.battle.net 17.92 has left the game voluntarily
pimenta96 useast.battle.net 17.2 has left the game voluntarily
yoyoyoyo europe.battle.net 17.17 has left the game voluntarily
kommwegflanken europe.battle.net 17.13 has left the game voluntarily
forest]myk europe.battle.net 17.03 has left the game voluntarily

I am ammending my original report to include forestmyk/california as a violator as well

Reinforcing forest]myk and california are same person alts. I know tropic33 is an alt as well so please be advised same with my other processed ban requests successful that ban dodging is highly likely

[Setharias]

Thank you for your input dtrash can, i found a few more games later this week that they were present in along beside you, did they preteam in these games as well?

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=6795652
lamb4slaughter europe.battle.net 42.65 has left the game voluntarily
redblood3 europe.battle.net 42.73 has left the game voluntarily
california europe.battle.net 42.23 has left the game voluntarily

dtrashcan2 europe.battle.net 42.03 has left the game voluntarily

(31:51 / All) dtrashcan2: Why are you 4 teaming red

from chat it seems at one point 4 players were all attacking 1 target? I know dtrashcan he is highly against teaming and every game these 3-4 play together there is always high suspicion of teaming in the game and chat logs?

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=6795709
california europe.battle.net 17.7 has left the game voluntarily
redblood3 europe.battle.net 17.7 has left the game voluntarily
lamb4slaughter europe.battle.net 17.7 has left the game voluntarily

dtrashcan2 europe.battle.net 16.5 has left the game voluntarily

Spoiler!

(00:54 / All) arkheor: hilarious
(01:25 / All) dtrashcan2: Really Grey
(01:28 / All) dtrashcan2: You want a war turn 2
(02:04 / All) arkheor: wtf lb ?
(02:06 / All) arkheor: premade ?
(02:23 / All) arkheor: god god
(02:25 / All) arkheor: preteamer
(02:27 / All) arkheor: lb and purple
(03:57 / All) Stracke: really orange?
(04:01 / All) dtrashcan2: I need the islands
(04:04 / All) dtrashcan2: blues about to sandwich me
(04:59 / All) dtrashcan2: I wanted greenland Tunsia will do
(05:00 / All) arkheor: blue really ?
(05:01 / All) arkheor: im war
(05:02 / All) arkheor: wtf
(05:16 / All) arkheor: teal kill blue
(05:17 / All) arkheor: ty
(05:17 / All) arkheor: fucking preteamers
(05:17 / All) arkheor: lb purple and blue
(05:19 / All) Stracke: stfu
(05:29 / All) arkheor: you stfu
(06:48 / All) arkheor: oj i take tunisia ?
(06:52 / All) RedBlood3: guys...
(06:53 / All) RedBlood3: teal
(06:54 / All) dtrashcan2: no
(06:57 / All) arkheor: stfu blue
(07:00 / All) lamb4slaughter: how
(07:02 / All) lamb4slaughter: the fuck
(07:05 / All) lamb4slaughter: do you think i was preteaming
(07:13 / All) arkheor: you teamin me
(07:59 / All) arkheor: gg teal
(08:02 / All) dtrashcan2: and I was going to let you live too lb
(08:12 / All) Stracke: u said tunisia and greenland
(08:26 / All) Stracke: i though u were ok
(08:39 / All) dtrashcan2: Take it teal
(08:41 / All) dtrashcan2: uve won anyway
(08:45 / All) dtrashcan2: Couldnt stop u even if i wanted to
(08:51 / All) California: <3
(08:57 / All) arkheor: nice teal
(08:59 / All) Stracke: i n fact you can
(09:03 / All) dtrashcan2: arkheor has left the game voluntarily.
(09:03 / QUIT) arkheor: Left
(09:04 / All) RedBlood3: -stfu dark green
(09:43 / All) Stracke: you're losing the game and attacking me
(09:57 / All) dtrashcan2: He was twice my size
(10:06 / All) Stracke: this game is lost
(11:57 / All) Stracke: !names
(12:02 / All) Stracke: pre team blue and orange?
(12:06 / All) RedBlood3: sure
(12:08 / All) RedBlood3: !names
(12:16 / All) Stracke: !names
(12:36 / All) RedBlood3: -stfu light blue
(12:37 / All) RedBlood3: -names
(12:41 / All) RedBlood3: !names
(14:50 / All) Stracke: !Names
(14:52 / All) dtrashcan2: Tunsia was mine'
(14:54 / All) dtrashcan2: when you teamed me
(16:30 / All) dtrashcan2: dtrashcan2 has left the game voluntarily.

*Everyone else quits a minute after* 17 Minutes is a very very very unrealistically short risk devolution game, very very unrealistic... and there was not much speaking but once again preteaming called into question.

Tropic33 must be using a different name/alt account in this judging by leave times it might be unteroffizier
unteroffizier europe.battle.net 42.75 has left the game voluntarily - first game
unteroffizier europe.battle.net 17.7 has left the game voluntarily - second game

@Dtrashcan2 can you verify which player in those 2 games looked like they were apart of the preteam group of 4?

[Setharias]

Updating PM from Dtrashcan2
"[ENT] Risk Devolution #96 5:41PM Australian Eastern Standard Time Friday the 20th November.
Tropic & Redblood preteam again."

Here is what the game seems like same 3 faces and same leave areas always winning together

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=6808638
dtrashcan2 europe.battle.net 123.03 has left the game voluntarily
redblood3 europe.battle.net 123.33 has left the game voluntarily
tropic33 europe.battle.net 123.8 has left the game voluntarily
lamb4slaughter europe.battle.net 117.02 has left the game voluntarily

It seems they must have read the preteam report currently because now their talking in game as changed pace, now they deny ever having skype, using it, or even knowing eachother all contradicts what they said in the earlier game reports, Interesting thank you for bringing this to my attention Dtrashcan2

[HazarDous]

@Setharias

I don't know if you already mentionned it above, since you write so much that's it's actually hard to select what's important or not, but in the interest of both parties (reporter and reviewer), I will ask you to stick to this format.

Risk Devo Pre-teaming ban request format:

Players: (Name / Colour) ALL the players
Violators list: (Name / Colour)
Timestamps of when they had an advantage from preteaming: (Elaborate on who did what)
Exemple1: 15:00 to 17:00; Orange and Blue left their borders unprotected.
Exemple2: 54:00 Orange and blue attacked brown together.
Further thought: Info that does not regard timestamp. I want ALL this information to be in spoiler because I can access that (games played together, same IP adress, times they leave games simultaneously, etc.) on my own and I want to focus on the timestamps.


**Note; This ban request format will be valid for ALL future ban requests. Also, avoid writing paragraphs of opinions as moderators only judge based on facts and proofs.

[HazarDous]

@Setharias

Feel free to re-post with all demanded information within the given format.

Processing.