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[DOTA] king23

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:51 am
by liuser
Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 187200.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] DotA apem us/ca #84
Your Warcraft III Username: imliuwhoru
Violator's Warcraft III Username: king23
Violated Rule(s): Refusing to cooperate. Griefing in game. Going afk in game. Temp banning after feeding all game and choosing to do nothing during teamfights and during game due to "lag"

Any further thoughts:
Do me a favor and watch the replay. I'm carrying on Lina while playing with a trolling witch doctor. At all points in the game teal is not only doing things to ruin the game for the team but actively trying only to prop up his kdr. He never pushes with the team. Never tries to take any objectives. Then, he finally complains about lag while going afk during massive teamfights.

(48:28 / Allied) imliuwhoru: because this pudge cant fucking do anything
(48:31 / Allied) kinG23: !checkme
(48:34 / Allied) LickMyPuzzy: they got gem now
(48:35 / All) elbowdrop: gg lol
(48:35 / Allied) imliuwhoru: youre useless
(48:39 / Allied) kinG23: who gem
(48:41 / Allied) SmellyNuts: look at his items

He has also temp banned me which I believe is a massive abuse of power.

Oh and just an FYI. I buy wards for the team, a gem for the team, and actively assist in saving teammates all game long. I still have no clue what kinG23 did all game besides lag and feed.

Re: [DOTA] king23

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:59 am
by KinG23
Didn't AFK or grief once. Not sure how tanking as Pudge with 3-6 is feeding.

Re: [DOTA] king23

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:59 am
by liuser
You afked at least 4 times during the match in crucial teamfights. And you also refused to help your team in these fights for 2/3's of the game. This led our carry Leoric to question whether you were intentionally throwing the game or not. Maybe instead of banning people for excessive flame, you should fix your internet and pay attention to the game.

Re: [DOTA] king23

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:00 am
by KinG23
Not once. You will need to add timestamps.

Re: [DOTA] king23

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:01 am
by liuser
Oh so you're reviewing your own ban request? This is sure going to be fun. You're a joke of a player and an admin.

Re: [DOTA] king23

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:08 am
by KinG23
Nope just telling you to add specific timestamps of these false accusations.

Re: [DOTA] king23

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:32 am
by liuser
You're missing in every single team from the 40 minute period onwards. I didn't realize that being a tank or an initiator meant that you waited for everyone else to jump in and blow all their sepells befor eyou got involved. Guess that's a mod's understanding of DoTA for you


45:00-45:30 AFK during teamfight
55:00-56:00 Not involved in teamfight again
48:00 - 49:00 Not involved in teamfight again

In fact, if you look at any of the engagements that actually change the course of the game, you'll see that kinG23 is never involved. He gives incorrect information regarding ultimates used and seem hell bent on losing the game while trying to find his own little bit of meaningless farm. He has to be yelled at to engage, which he also never does. He never pushes with the team unless the fight has already been won. He sits on invis runes on top of the rune spot, chooses to stay invis in massive teamfights, and never tanks any spells or damage. He doesn't play his hero or his role in the team correctly. Instead the onus lays on SK and Lina to engage and win the fights leading to a win. Even SK remarks on what little impact he has had throughout the game. This isn't a time where kinG23 has a bad game on pudge. He chooses not to engage to preserve his KDR instead of actually providing any value to his teammates. Instead, he posts question marks when challenged as to why he has NO presence in any teamfight.

The team won this game in spite of you.

Re: [DOTA] king23

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:50 am
by BeerLord
I watched this game in its entirety. There is nothing that liuser has to say that is true. Pudge was never afk. He was active in team fights. He tanked often for the team. He was underleveled and often when he tanked he would have to lothar out of the fight to survive and recuperate. I agree completely with the banning of liuser for excessive flame. It was non stop, directed at allies and enemies alike. He is toxic to team play, and I think a case could be made for game ruin had sentinel lost this one. Im going to ask that an admin review this, and recommend that the ban given for excessive flaming be extended. This player is toxic to the community and needs to take a deep breath and regain some composure.

Re: [DOTA] king23

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:56 am
by liuser
I don't possibly understand how a case could be made for game ruining had Sentinel lost the game. I carried the early and mid game. I pushed out every single lane for the team. I bought wards and gem when no one else would. I saved teammates by using LSA and Eul's. Yet somehow I could be blamed for game ruining when I was setting the correct tempo for the team the entire game. I dominated mid early, ganked often, and pushed down the majority of the towers. I did the most damage to towers and heros and intelligently played the matchups within the game. I itemized for the benefit of my allies. I supported my allies when it was necessary and had an active map presence within the game ganking and counter ganking. Yet somehow the fault should fall to me when and if we had lost the game. That "game ruining" statement should invalidate not only your claims to have watched and understood what was going on in this particular game, but you honestly shouldn't be allowed to judge people for game ruining anymore if you actually believe what you typed.

Funny that you say that when I was the only one actually providing any value to teammates in terms of saving them from ganks and providing both vision and support all game long. I had a witch doctor who had been trolling me all game long who refused to buy wards, who also insisted that witch doctor wasn't a support hero. I also had a Pudge who never communicated and when he did disseminated incorrect information regarding enemy's usage and cd's. I can point out multiple instances where my "toxic teamplay" resulted in massive won fights for the team which eventually led to our win. Actively ganking in the early while maintaining vision and an active presence on the map must be considered toxic. Pushing out waves when necessary to keep equilibrium must also be toxic. Landing multiple stuns in teamfights to change the direction of teamfights must also be toxic. Suggesting proper item builds for success in the late game must be toxic as well. Finally, itemizing to address the team's needs must be toxic as well. Sounds like playing DotA in an intelligent and proper manner is toxic...

But sure, Pudge was "active" in team fights missing hooks and ulting unimportant heroes and sitting invis on the side lanes. Funny how he was also never involved in teamfights even though he had BoTs as well. Funny also how he never got hood or pipe even after omni purchased Radiance. He hooked teammates out of positions for kills, chose to sit in side lanes while the entire team pushed, and gave out the wrong information when he decided to communicate with teammates.


Guess you protect your own.

Re: [DOTA] king23

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:16 am
by BeerLord
My issue isnt with your game play liuser. My concern here is with your ban request:
Refusing to cooperate. Griefing in game. Going afk in game. Temp banning after feeding all game and choosing to do nothing during teamfights and during game due to "lag"
There is nothing here that is honest or true, except for the 12 hour ban for flame. The way you treat people is your choice in life, and there are no rules here that govern that, except when it comes to excessive flame which is pretty clear you engaged in.
Im locking this until further review.

Re: [DOTA] king23

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:25 pm
by BeerLord
Denied.
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