[CF] manofglory@europe.battle.net, poopenheimers@useast.battle.net, purpose@europe.battle.net

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[CF] manofglory@europe.battle.net, poopenheimers@useast.battle.net, purpose@europe.battle.net

Postby SirSandgroper » Mon May 23, 2016 9:29 am

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=7772090
Game Name: [ENT] Castle Fight! #56
Your Warcraft III Username: SirSandgroper
Violator's Warcraft III Username: manofglory@europe.battle.net, poopenheimers@useast.battle.net, purpose@europe.battle.net
Violated Rule(s):

Do not leave before the game has certainly ended, especially if no other player has left. (purpose, 11:52)

Do not ruin the game on purpose: Do not go away from keyboard for an excessive amount of time, especially without telling other players beforehand, and/or refuse to play the game in an attempt to ruin it. Neither are you allowed to grief by resetting the afk timer.

Do not flame, rage, troll, or insult other players excessively. (manofglory 52 mins)

Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 10 min mark

Any further thoughts: So, our team-mate for excessive AFK, which then caused the known 'AFK kick bug' I guess you call it. It's when your team-mate, if kicked when their status is '-AFK', then if the mode is '-bal1' then the bal1 player will not be able to build with the inherited builder. That left our side post-kick just being able to build with only 2 builders. I made opponents aware of this and asked for !draw, but red trolled (52 mins).

Poopenheimer experienced and should/would know of this bug, he said he understood/'believed' us but still didn't do !draw vote.

With this bug, there should be a new rule added for Castle Fight, that's IF this bug cannot be fixed. I hope they can fix it, but at the moment it's a sure-fire way to 'ruin' a game. I presume 'purpose' did not do this on purpose, but his 'XD' as you see in the chat 11:52 mark.

Either map makers fix the bug or you guys introduce a new rule to allow for this and our community spreads the word about the bug (I will) and about the new etiquette. You can't have scenarios where players can only build with 2 builders v 3 and NOT be drawing - this scenario is not in the design of the game. They introduced the Auto-draws for 'Desyncs' which was a great, long overdue idea and while not saying that should happen for this, perhaps some kind of draw vote initiated, as clearly the AI/Bal1 control bugged and won't be building? FTR Most people go -bal1 rather than -bal2 or no -bal, so the risk of this bug is high. Something needs to change.

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Re: [CF] manofglory@europe.battle.net, poopenheimers@useast.battle.net, purpose@europe.battle.net

Postby Kunert88 » Mon May 23, 2016 4:19 pm

u can make a fast cage on the lane where the bot builds, so u block him and it doenst waste your gold ^^

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Re: [CF] manofglory@europe.battle.net, poopenheimers@useast.battle.net, purpose@europe.battle.net

Postby SirSandgroper » Mon May 23, 2016 5:59 pm

Kunert88 wrote:u can make a fast cage on the lane where the bot builds, so u block him and it doenst waste your gold ^^


Thanks Kunert, but this is about the bug that kicks in when a team-mate who is -afk leaves or is kicked and when it's -bal1 you can't build with him. It's a bug.

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Re: [CF] manofglory@europe.battle.net, poopenheimers@useast.battle.net, purpose@europe.battle.net

Postby Kunert88 » Tue May 24, 2016 6:00 am

hmm i only know that u and the bot control the worker when someone is afk and leave the game, i never had this bug before, i could always play the worker too when someone was afk and got kicked maybe just pink couldnt build with him cause the bot was faster in build , only when no modes are set and someone leave u cant control him

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Re: [CF] manofglory@europe.battle.net, poopenheimers@useast.battle.net, purpose@europe.battle.net

Postby shehzadem » Tue May 24, 2016 3:09 pm

You can only control the builder if you are either red or green. However, you can't build with it since the icon is missing. You can only RS with the 2nd builder, but the actual building process is left in the hands of the bot. It happens everytime someone leaves with -afk on and is quite an annoying bug.

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Re: [CF] manofglory@europe.battle.net, poopenheimers@useast.battle.net, purpose@europe.battle.net

Postby Kunert88 » Tue May 24, 2016 3:39 pm

hmm okay never happen to me in my 5000 cf games on ent, i can always play the afk guy when someone did -afk and got kicked or left but u can also control the second worker when green or blue leaves so pink and blue can control the 2 worker not only green or red :P

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Re: [CF] manofglory@europe.battle.net, poopenheimers@useast.battle.net, purpose@europe.battle.net

Postby shehzadem » Tue May 24, 2016 4:19 pm

Oh no wait. You're right, you can still build with the builder, but the bot is still active. So it's annoying when you're saving for 300g+ buildings and the bot decides to build something else. However, only the top player can build with the 2nd builder. If red leaves, only blue can build with him (but not teal) and if blue leaves only red can build with him and not teal. Same goes for the eastern team. The build icon disappears only for the bottom player.

Here's a replay after teal is kicked at around 1h6min. The frantic movements of teal's builder is me trying to prevent the bot from building on the bottom lane. And blue couldn't control him. Too bad you can't see the console or switch to bot's view, but it's there. If you want to try it, join a game and then gang up on one of your teammates to get him kicked after he -afks and then watch that horror unfold. :P

http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/view_replay.php?file=7768446.w3g

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Re: [CF] manofglory@europe.battle.net, poopenheimers@useast.battle.net, purpose@europe.battle.net

Postby Kunert88 » Tue May 24, 2016 4:23 pm

thats why build always a cage at the begin on the side where the bot builds to stop him to waste my gold and i can conzentrate on the game not on the bot :D

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Re: [CF] manofglory@europe.battle.net, poopenheimers@useast.battle.net, purpose@europe.battle.net

Postby shehzadem » Tue May 24, 2016 4:30 pm

Whether on not the cage helps (and it occasionally does not - as the bot will insist on building INSIDE the cage, and since it's closed and cannot get there it will refuse to building elsewhere) the fact remains. Bot's choice of buildings is shit to say the least and it ruins the game almost every time. ;)

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Re: [CF] manofglory@europe.battle.net, poopenheimers@useast.battle.net, purpose@europe.battle.net

Postby Kunert88 » Wed May 25, 2016 8:17 am

i know the bot tries to build in the cage and cant , so u can spend the gold ,not the bot ^^ it helped me alot in games to conzentrate better on the game and not on the bot money =)

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Re: [CF] manofglory@europe.battle.net, poopenheimers@useast.battle.net, purpose@europe.battle.net

Postby wTc[JediMaster] » Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:11 pm

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This one has been here for a while and it's kinda clear case.
Sir. kurt and shehz are mostly debateing CF starts and gameplay rather then the report itself so dont seems like they think the report is off in anyway.
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Re: [CF] manofglory@europe.battle.net, poopenheimers@useast.battle.net, purpose@europe.battle.net

Postby Arii » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:22 pm

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(52:09 / All) manofglory: ez win get rekt
(52:11 / All) manofglory: lolool

Flame wasn't excessive at all.

Drawing/refusing to draw is not against the rules. It is solely each players individual decision on whether they draw or not.

Purpose@europe banned 3 days for AFK.
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