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[LTD] [iiiitz-adi@europe.battle.net ]

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:27 pm
by StreetWeed
Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=7778320
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Mega 1200+ #87
Your Warcraft III Username: n0skillz_sky
Violator's Warcraft III Username: iiiitz-adi
Violated Rule(s): he sold towers at lvl 11 to leak so they could get a bigger send of at lvl 15
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 25:00
Any further thoughts:

Re: [LTD] [iiiitz-adi@europe.battle.net ]

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:02 pm
by Stiff_Maistar
@streetweed It isnt against the rules what Adi did.

Re: [LTD] [iiiitz-adi@europe.battle.net ]

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:04 pm
by durzo_blint
Do not sell value to stall time and gain an advantage on a racing level.

it is

Re: [LTD] [iiiitz-adi@europe.battle.net ]

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:06 pm
by Stiff_Maistar
That rule in this game only count for lvl 15, when they were racing.
Adi did not do this on a racing level, he did it at lvl 11.
That rule is made so players cant just sell 50% of their value so the units clog and the demons cant attack the king while the other team dies because the demons are attacking their king.

Re: [LTD] [iiiitz-adi@europe.battle.net ]

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:11 pm
by durzo_blint
you kidding me?

no the rule doesnt count only for wave 15. since it doesnt say:

Do not sell value to stall time and gain an advantage on wave 15.

the rule cleary state that you are NOT allowed to sell value to stall the game. And thats what he did.

Re: [LTD] [iiiitz-adi@europe.battle.net ]

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:14 pm
by durzo_blint
just read the rule, dont try to read in the rule what you would like.

Do not intentionally clog: Players must have close to half of the recommended value unless incomer in cross.

Do not sell value to stall time and gain an advantage on a racing level.

these two rules are completly diffrent and cover diffrent things.

Re: [LTD] [iiiitz-adi@europe.battle.net ]

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:16 pm
by Stiff_Maistar
Stiff_Maistar wrote:That rule in this game only count for lvl 15, when they were racing.

Read a bit closer, i said in this game.
In some games the teams are racing on lvl 17.

The rule says "do not sell value to stall time [...] on a racing level. It does not say "to stall the game".

Re: [LTD] [iiiitz-adi@europe.battle.net ]

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:22 pm
by durzo_blint
yeah i agree, if the rule only says "do not sell value to stall time on a racing level" 100% agree with you, he would not have violated any rules. But sadly its not the hole rule.

the racing lvl was 15. check
he sold value to leak 11 and make the game slower ergo hes stalling the game to gain an advantage on the racing level. check

so the rule is: Do not sell value to stall time and gain an advantage on a racing level.

he sold value. he stalled time to gain an advantage on a racing level.


edit: and the rules cleary says [...] on a racing level. and not the racing level.
that implies that every wave can be a racing lvl, therefore it doesnt matter if it was 15 that game.

Re: [LTD] [iiiitz-adi@europe.battle.net ]

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 6:31 pm
by broud3r
alright in general zahnstocher would be right according to the topic where the rule came up
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=74915
but who defines which level is the racing level how you can know that before? you could guess but you cant ban someone for an assumption.
anyway this rule needs some clarification and rephrase.

Re: [LTD] [iiiitz-adi@europe.battle.net ]

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:10 pm
by durzo_blint
the rule itself says "a racing level" that means every wave you wanna send will be the racing wave. if the rules would say "the racing level" then yes, the rules needs a rephrase. When he sold his untis to gain an advantage and you as a grp decide to send wave X. wave X is the racing level. even if your opponent doesnt send, its still the racing level since you cant know 100% wether or not your opponent will send.

and there is no assumtion needed actually. and the rules is very easy to understand like its phrased

Re: [LTD] [iiiitz-adi@europe.battle.net ]

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 10:50 pm
by RadiantCrystal
Well according to the rules, it doens't violate any of them atm
he didn't sell to teamkill (it was a team's plan im assuming), theres no "players must have half recommended value" rule either, and " Do not sell value to stall time and gain an advantage on a racing level." ... it wasn't racing level either