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[LOD] phenomenal_1@europe.battle.net

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:51 am
by NighTShoW
Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 892465.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] LoD -sds6bod2fn #43
Your Warcraft III Username: LordShoW
Violator's Warcraft III Username: phenomenal_1@europe.battle.net
Violated Rule(s): game ruining, left the game
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): start - 17:02
Any further thoughts: called mid, feeded, died 4 times and left, ruining the game
(17:02 / QUIT) Phenomenal_1: Left

Re: [LOD] phenomenal_1@europe.battle.net

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:58 am
by Jiminy_Cricket
ban for this shit if it's intentional. game ruin is game ruin.

Re: [LOD] phenomenal_1@europe.battle.net

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:27 pm
by JIMINY_CRlCKET
Died 3 times in a row to the bestest lod player solo mid in the first 10 minutes? understood ))))))))))))

leaving is taken care of by autoban system

Re: [LOD] phenomenal_1@europe.battle.net

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:15 pm
by NighTShoW
Jiminy_Cricket wrote:ban for this shit if it's intentional. game ruin is game ruin.


I agree with the first Jiminy and I say more:

Oh sure, lets call mid, feed and left the game saying that it wanst intentional. If it is not bannable why not just leave the game when you feeded? Good idea!
Rethink your concepts.
Feeding and leaving the game is proportionally equal to being afk that is bannable (3 - 5 days). (And if the feeding was intentional it could also fits as game ruin)
If it was like that, It would not have logic. You can be banned for being afk but not banned for feeding+rage quit.

Re: [LOD] phenomenal_1@europe.battle.net

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:48 pm
by Jiminy_Cricket
ya game ruin is game ruin and bans should be proportionate to how much the game got ruined by the players actions.

Re: [LOD] phenomenal_1@europe.battle.net

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:42 am
by Hatedmaru
After reviewing:

Indeed he calls mid, dies 4 times and quits the game

However, and considering his enemy draft (mines, slithereen crush, ball lighting, and storm passive), not a surprise wr dind't stood a chance (You could clearly see wr was noob too the moment he gets supernova/haunt, but no desolate or anything to support it lols ...)

Anyways, looking at his 4 deaths, he dind't exactly feed, or die recklessly so overall autoban should take care of his ban.

Re: [LOD] phenomenal_1@europe.battle.net

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:33 pm
by NighTShoW
Hyo wrote:After reviewing:

Indeed he calls mid, dies 4 times and quits the game

However, and considering his enemy draft (mines, slithereen crush, ball lighting, and storm passive), not a surprise wr dind't stood a chance (You could clearly see wr was noob too the moment he gets supernova/haunt, but no desolate or anything to support it lols ...)

Anyways, looking at his 4 deaths, he dind't exactly feed, or die recklessly so overall autoban should take care of his ban.


If we follow your thought, @Hyo, there is a logic problem here.
Read this again and think about it:

As I said to Jiminy:
Oh sure, lets call mid, feed and left the game saying that it wanst intentional. If it is not bannable why not just leave the game when you feeded? Good idea!
Rethink your concepts.
Feeding and leaving the game is proportionally equal to being afk that is bannable (3 - 5 days). (And if the feeding was intentional it could also fits as game ruin)
If it was like that, It would not have logic. You can be banned for being afk but not banned for feeding+rage quit.


Something is tottaly wrong here if we follow what you said, accepting autoban (some hours fo ban) for this case.

Re: [LOD] phenomenal_1@europe.battle.net

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:39 pm
by Hatedmaru
Ragequit is handled by autoban itself, so nothing different there.

Feeding and being bad are 2 different things - You can still feed even if not intentionally (by playing reckless for example), but if you take a look at his 4 deaths, you'll realize he was just playing bad, and not feeding at all, so yes my logic is not wrong here.

Anyways a moderator will review this later, and process it (Simply gave my opinion on the brq)

Re: [LOD] phenomenal_1@europe.battle.net

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:14 pm
by BeerLord
This player has a total of 4 lod games. The rest of his games are dota. He clearly got overwhelmed by an experienced player. None of his deaths looked intentional to me. There are no criteria met here for game ruin. His leaving is taken care of by autoban.
Denied.