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Re: [4.0.0] Suggestions

Postby Ultrasonic » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:23 am

I rlly admire ur idead <3 keep making more i like ur ideas xd unlike you i cant think of any it just come into my mind the only thing i know right now is that rumor have been spreading that theres a flying satyr... is it true is it a reserch or a still an idea for later 4.0.0 versions ;O @Neco lel
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Re: [4.0.0] Suggestions

Postby Haunt » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:14 am

Flying satyr rofl

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Re: [4.0.0] Suggestions

Postby Ultrasonic » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:42 am

Shadowzz spreaded that word... idk if its true but my only predictions and evidence that it might be true is hes an alpha tester because he was able to pick sat in a public [ENT] Island Defense game that i played with him.. forgot what game # was it but thats it <3 @Neco pls explain if its true ;I
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Re: [4.0.0] Suggestions

Postby Merex » Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:14 pm

Obv truths. Lord neco should also give us a flying moltenious.
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Re: [4.0.0] Suggestions

Postby Haunt » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:42 pm

tbh, flying moltenius makes no sense.

However, Foss and Breeze should be able to fly.

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Re: [4.0.0] Suggestions

Postby n3w_3ra » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:48 pm

Why would foss fly that makes no sense, but a titan with flying as an ultimate similiar to demoncius new WW would be sweet, also a titan with a built in reincarnation spell with 360 second cooldown for an ultimate would be cool

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Re: [4.0.0] Suggestions

Postby Haunt » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:50 pm

Foss is giant carrion beetle, he should be able to fly.

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Re: [4.0.0] Suggestions

Postby Merex » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:27 pm

Or just make a new alien builder called ''Withered'' and make it fly with 2,000 damage and 1hp. The ultimate risk-reward.
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Re: [4.0.0] Suggestions

Postby Haunt » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:31 pm

That sounds awesome.

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Re: [4.0.0] Suggestions

Postby n3w_3ra » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:24 pm

Please I beg you change the escape keys from "W"

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Re: [4.0.0] Suggestions

Postby Burn » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:02 pm

For 4.0.0 there are many suitable hotkeys with no clashes with popular hot-keys in the build menu, and is placed in suitable locations.

I will list hot-keys I prefer and have tested A LOT in DotA2 item hot-keys to figure out which hot-keys is easiest to reach from best to worst:

"E" For escape is best, for an escape spell
"G" For escape is really nice
"Q" For escape is good, although some people may prefer it for an offensive spell
"R" For escape is good, although it should be used for ultimates
"C" For escape is good, no problems with the old panic hot-key, ever, just harder to reach
"V" For escape is good, I don't think anything uses "V" as a hot-key,

"Z" "X" "V" is harder to reach, and the letters are far away and ugly, at the end of the alphabet, so I prefer not to use those letters. Hah!

Maybe this is just me, so I will post my left hand keyboard stance:
Four fingers on ASDF, and thumb on space bar.
Relaxed stance: AWEF, and thumb on space bar
Fap stance:

Full list of hot-keys available:
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For 4.0.0 newest public beta (Repair changed to "D", Gather & return resource changed to "F")
"C" (Gold tower in build menu clashes)
"Q" (Skill menu clashes)
"G" (No clashes with popular hot-keys)
"E" (Research centre build menu clash)
"R" (Advanced research centre build menu clash)
"V" (No clashes with popular hot-keys)

Harder to reach hot-keys
"Z" (Clashes with gold towers in build menu)
"X" (Clashes with gold towers in build menu)
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Re: [4.0.0] Suggestions

Postby aRt)Y » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:29 pm

'G' will most likely clash with German keywords.

asdf could be one line too far from the number control groups (should consider the hobbits' hands).
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Re: [4.0.0] Suggestions

Postby Burn » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:15 am

SCREW THE GERMANS KEYBOARD!
Yeah, ASDF, AWEF, whatever floats your boat. That should be mostly everyone's left handed finger positioons.

I guess you'd just have to customize every single basic hot-key if you wanted to make do with hot-keys with different WC3 language versions, like German.

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Re: [4.0.0] Suggestions

Postby Stealer » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:04 am

zxcv obv best choice.

it doesn't matter that they clash with gold towers, if they are in a build menu and they try to escape it they still needed to hit esc to get out of the menu.
zxcv also maps directly to the bottom of the menu (qwer = top, asdf = middle, zxcv = bottom).


Why use 'G' its not even in the 3x4 row of keys for qwerty mapping...

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Re: [4.0.0] Suggestions

Postby Burn » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:15 am

QWER is the best for primary spells, W is used, so QWR is best.

ZXCV is way too awkward for ASDF stance, or AWEF stance. "G" is awesome because it is one button away from my pointer finger, but not as aesthetically pleasing since Neco is going the QWER ASDF ZXCV route, and not as easy to remember.

EDIT: Actually, just played a titan game, my resting hand is AW4T for titan. For sat, it is AWEB(for building) or ASDF(on water, finger on dash). So I guess it depends on what my escape skill is.

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