Your Warcraft III username: dr4ke
Realm/Gateway: west
Why are you banned: Vk Abuse
Why you should be unbanned: Don't recall game much but...
From chat log, seems I asked for a reason and they gave one, plus the player being vk'd even said he was jungling.
So sounds like he wasn't helping defend top.
Jungling w/ spec of all heroes and while top is getting killed by axe....
(Maybe in this instance master_pain was correct in calling him a retard)
Furtheremore, doesn't appear I voted in first two attempted and finally did at third attempt since everyone voted so he probably wasn't still helping at top and his score probably sucked at the time.
Unban Please.
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Re: Unban Please.
@MaL
Topic against you: viewtopic.php?t=92740
No one on his team called any strategies or asked for him to join them. They just pinged, insulted, and initiated a votekick. It was too early in the game for anything to happen. Please head over to our wiki and find the rule you broke and paste it here. Thank you
Topic against you: viewtopic.php?t=92740
No one on his team called any strategies or asked for him to join them. They just pinged, insulted, and initiated a votekick. It was too early in the game for anything to happen. Please head over to our wiki and find the rule you broke and paste it here. Thank you
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Re: Unban Please.
Of course I read the ban against me.
VpZ]Ark: "As its been only 6mins and not long that i was in woods"
Arii: It was too early in the game for anything to happen"
6min isn't early in game considering an average game takes 30-45min. Thats basically 13-20% of game in woods.
An average axe player being allowed to cut uncontested can ruin a game pretty quickly for the opposing team.
Furthermore, a good axe player, like myself (not pro, just good), can obtain a dagger within 5min.
@Arii
"No one on his team called any strategies or asked for him to join them. They just pinged, insulted, and initiated a vote kick."
Chat Logs:
(05:28 / Allied) master_pain: need help bot (Sounds like he did ask for help)
(06:02 / Allied) master_pain: !votekick ark
(07:01 / All) master_pain: neuting top vs axe wont help
(07:04 / All) master_pain: refuses*
Seems kind of lame banning opposing team for the "vk violations" of other team when we're making the judgment that their allie was game ruining based on their teams public chat, and his own statements of jungling for a lengthy period of time rather than defending.
Expecting opposing team to know or not know what is happening in the other teams chat is insane.
I didn't vote til the third attempt at 10:08.
(10:32 / QUIT) VpZ]Ark: Left
If their team was still saying he wasn't helping, then thats on em. If anything ban should only be against their team if you still find this to be a vk violation, which I myself don't think it should and you'll see why later on. It sounds like he refused to help after getting his feelings hurt by master_pain and that aint my fault/problem, haha. He should just use ignore like I sometimes do.
In the future, might just be best to not vk anyone since it does change the dynamics of a game. Loss so many games after being in the lead, and then other team getting more gold/exp since the newbs get kicked. I enter game based on the odds of winning after evaluating certain players score, just like any decent player would. Once the newb is kicked... that changed everything.
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Thus, going by the rules...
Entrule: Do not abuse !votekick: its only purpose is to kick game ruinners who violate ENT's rules and negatively impact the game for either or both teams in the game.
Check! He definitely negatively impacted their game by not defending/helping.
Entrule: If someone or several indicate that a particular player is game ruining, you, as a player in the game, are obligated to question/check about the situation/claim.
Check! His team indicated he was ruining by wanting him gone by either vote kicking him or stating he wasn't defending/helping.
So after all is said and done, I did follow the rules.
I still think you're awesome Arii, but yeah... unban me please!
VpZ]Ark: "As its been only 6mins and not long that i was in woods"
Arii: It was too early in the game for anything to happen"
6min isn't early in game considering an average game takes 30-45min. Thats basically 13-20% of game in woods.
An average axe player being allowed to cut uncontested can ruin a game pretty quickly for the opposing team.
Furthermore, a good axe player, like myself (not pro, just good), can obtain a dagger within 5min.
@Arii
"No one on his team called any strategies or asked for him to join them. They just pinged, insulted, and initiated a vote kick."
Chat Logs:
(05:28 / Allied) master_pain: need help bot (Sounds like he did ask for help)
(06:02 / Allied) master_pain: !votekick ark
(07:01 / All) master_pain: neuting top vs axe wont help
(07:04 / All) master_pain: refuses*
Seems kind of lame banning opposing team for the "vk violations" of other team when we're making the judgment that their allie was game ruining based on their teams public chat, and his own statements of jungling for a lengthy period of time rather than defending.
Expecting opposing team to know or not know what is happening in the other teams chat is insane.
I didn't vote til the third attempt at 10:08.
(10:32 / QUIT) VpZ]Ark: Left
If their team was still saying he wasn't helping, then thats on em. If anything ban should only be against their team if you still find this to be a vk violation, which I myself don't think it should and you'll see why later on. It sounds like he refused to help after getting his feelings hurt by master_pain and that aint my fault/problem, haha. He should just use ignore like I sometimes do.
In the future, might just be best to not vk anyone since it does change the dynamics of a game. Loss so many games after being in the lead, and then other team getting more gold/exp since the newbs get kicked. I enter game based on the odds of winning after evaluating certain players score, just like any decent player would. Once the newb is kicked... that changed everything.
-----
Thus, going by the rules...
Entrule: Do not abuse !votekick: its only purpose is to kick game ruinners who violate ENT's rules and negatively impact the game for either or both teams in the game.
Check! He definitely negatively impacted their game by not defending/helping.
Entrule: If someone or several indicate that a particular player is game ruining, you, as a player in the game, are obligated to question/check about the situation/claim.
Check! His team indicated he was ruining by wanting him gone by either vote kicking him or stating he wasn't defending/helping.
So after all is said and done, I did follow the rules.
I still think you're awesome Arii, but yeah... unban me please!
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Re: Unban Please.
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