Banned for not kicking a non-proved gameruiner

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Banned for not kicking a non-proved gameruiner

Postby GabenUSoSexy » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:18 am

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ban reason: refusing to kick game ruiner
Why you should be unbanned?:so I have been banned, because i didn't kick guy that "sold all his towers" it was after arena round, so I couldn't even check it, also this guy said that he didn't do that and that the guy accusing him was lying... I don't really think it's my fault lol.

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Re: Banned for not kicking a non-proved gameruiner

Postby GabenUSoSexy » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:48 am

please, I really love this game, wanted to play some games today...

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Re: Banned for not kicking a non-proved gameruiner

Postby FalenGa » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:45 am

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Spoiler!
(15:43 / All) FlamerNo3: green sold all
(15:46 / All) FlamerNo3: !votekick death
(15:46 / All) GABENuSOsexy: A votekick against player [deathrunerr] has been started by player [FlamerNo3]. 4 votes are needed within 60 seconds to pass.
(15:48 / All) deathrunerr: ofc
(15:57 / All) deathrunerr: stupid thrash
(15:59 / All) FlamerNo3: he sold all units
(16:04 / All) deathrunerr: yea
(16:05 / All) MasterofDisaste: i know
(16:08 / All) deathrunerr: you should be happy
(16:09 / All) MasterofDisaste: he did the same last game
(16:12 / All) deathrunerr: next time i will sell your mom

(17:00 / All) deathrunerr: just go full send
(17:01 / All) deathrunerr: i wont up
(17:03 / All) deathrunerr: and wont build
(17:21 / All) GABENuSOsexy: heal now green

(18:34 / All) FlamerNo3: he sold all towers
(18:37 / All) deathrunerr: ofc
(18:41 / All) deathrunerr: next time learn to talk



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Re: Banned for not kicking a non-proved gameruiner

Postby GabenUSoSexy » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:34 pm

@falenga well I couldn't even tell if that's truth when they started votekick, and later this guy started to play normally. +I don't really care abot enemy team trashtalking and flamming each other. I could also get banned for kicking him... that's pointless if i dont see their side of map...

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Re: Banned for not kicking a non-proved gameruiner

Postby GabenUSoSexy » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:17 pm

+ notice the fact that he wrote most of that stuff more than 60 seconds after VK so the ban is not even a reasonable report @FalenGa

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Re: Banned for not kicking a non-proved gameruiner

Postby Mercy » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:22 pm

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Well, here is where analyzing the situation helps a bit. When you failed to kick the ruiner, it became plausible to ban. If they were lying about the votekick and were providing misinformation, you would not have been banned. If you had, instead, voted !yes, and the situation remained the same and deathrunner had reported you, you would not have been banned because his actions were game ruining and he should be kicked.

Does that make sense?

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Re: Banned for not kicking a non-proved gameruiner

Postby FalenGa » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:26 pm

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Both of his teammates kept saying he sold his towers. He confirmed it himself, more than once.

There were 4 votekicks against him, and you refused each one. There is no excuse.

Please head over to our wiki page, take a moment to read through our rules, and then copy paste the one you broke here.

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Re: Banned for not kicking a non-proved gameruiner

Postby GabenUSoSexy » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:51 pm

I take your point, but I still think in such a not clear situation, ban isn't needed, +in ent games there's such option as !ignore, SO if you can ignore someone to stop seeing their messages, it means that using chat is optional, SO this banning for such thing is pointless...
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Re: Banned for not kicking a non-proved gameruiner

Postby Mercy » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:52 pm

@GabenUSoSexy

Even if you use ignore, the point is you didn't kick a game ruiner. You must kick game ruiners, and in this situation, it was fairly clear.

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Re: Banned for not kicking a non-proved gameruiner

Postby GabenUSoSexy » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:59 pm

But if I ignored those guys I wouldn't have even seen that they accused "gameruiner" of ruining game. I didn't SEE that he sold all his towers, he didn't send alone, he didnt do anything to let us see that he is ruining game, on chat you can write pretty much everything, it doesn't have to be truth. I even asked him to waste holy light to see if he's actually trolling, but he DIDN'T do that, maybe that is impossible atm in game but idc, I still didn't have a single proof. a single reason to kick him.
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Re: Banned for not kicking a non-proved gameruiner

Postby Mercy » Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:02 pm

@GabenUSoSexy

As of now, holy light isn't possible to use by command. It auto heals for this very reason. I will let Falenga handle the remainder of this case, but I gave you the reasons and why you wouldn't be banned if you had voted !yes.

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Re: Banned for not kicking a non-proved gameruiner

Postby FalenGa » Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:02 pm

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The guy blatantly admitted he is game ruining. I honestly have no idea what you're talking about.

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Re: Banned for not kicking a non-proved gameruiner

Postby GabenUSoSexy » Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:06 pm

You can lie on chat, you can write everything, and it doesn't have to be truth, I don't think players have to belive EVERYTHING that is written on chat.
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Re: Banned for not kicking a non-proved gameruiner

Postby FalenGa » Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:07 pm

@GabenUSoSexy
You are playing in a game with 3 opponents. At some point, two of them start accusing Green of selling his towers and game ruining. Then Green confirms the story himself, more than once.

If that's not proof enough, then what is?

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Re: Banned for not kicking a non-proved gameruiner

Postby GabenUSoSexy » Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:12 pm

They could be friends, that played together and wanted to have some fun make a joke on all chat, smth like that happens really often, Players shouldnt be responsible for what enemy team writes on chat if they don't have a SINGLE 100% proof
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