Complaint on fairness

[Naruto-fr]

Your Warcraft III username: naruto-fr
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Why you should be unbanned:

Hi all,

Just got banned for 5 days for game ruining by @Beerlord because I refuse to defend with the team. I admit I was toxic in this game because I can't stand anymore stupid dumbasses and trolls, maybe I have played too many games here for too long...

Below is the link of the game I got banned:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=125307&p=486214&hilit=naruto#p486214

First I hate unfair games, so when a player is clearly ruining a game, you have to vk him, this is a simple thing... and some players of my team clearly refused to vk meepo who was clearly feeding intentionnaly...
It is the first event taht made me angry... Ennemi's players did try to vk many times but one of my allies always refused to vk each time (seems the one reporting me did fail to vk the game ruiner, so maybe you should ban him as well)... So they let meepo ruined the game (meepo was 0-11 when he got kicked) til they got fat enough but we were still loosing because we had no team play...
Then I was fed up with this game after mins 13 when another vk failed, and I started !FF. But I still keep on playing...
Mins 15 meepo got finally kicked... Super after 11 deaths... a joke...
mins 16: PL left the game as well and we were playing 3v5
You will see in the chat, I was apologizing to the ennemi's team
(17:06 / All) naruto-fr: shame game
(17:06 / All) naruto-fr:
(17:19 / All) naruto-fr: sry for u

After this I tried again to push at 18 mins and earth still back full life without saying anything and let me and mortred push and die...
At that moment, I was getting more and more angry for this unfair game... So I started farming and watched this stupid game and did flame hard and refuse to cooperate with the team from that moment.
So from that moment, I only farm and defend tower and refused to play with the team (see mins 26 I tried to defend but got killed by bara who was already OP thx to leaver gold/items... and 28 I defend, 31 I defend), still I finish 7/7 in this game whereas my whole team got negative KDR...
(19:25 / Allied) naruto-fr: team only good at ks
(19:26 / Allied) naruto-fr: xD
(19:31 / Allied) naruto-fr: fuckign no push
(21:29 / Allied) naruto-fr: i look at u trash and it is fun
(22:35 / Allied) naruto-fr: me solo
(23:40 / Allied) naruto-fr: u guys don't deserve to win

@ Beerlord, I don't understand when you saw me feeding on purpose in this game (you pointed out 61 mins whereas the game lasted for 45 mins... And even if I really wanted to throw this game, I unconsciously tried to defend with this stupid shit team(mins 40) but died.

I admit I was flaming hard and did refuse to defend with the team at mid game. But I did not ruin the game. They ruined it themselves the moment they refuse to push with me when meepo got kicked and PL had left and let the ennemi getting fat with leaver items/gold.

For this stupid shit game I was banned for 5 days? Whereas the players I reported who was selling or destroying all items on purpose and went afk or was trolling only got 3 day ban??
See examples of 3 day ban:
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=125113&p=485417#p485417
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=122895&p=477383#p477383

You can ban me for flaming and refusing to cooperate, it is a fact but you should review this whole shit game and tell me if it is fair?

[1B_Fantom]

https://entgaming.net/openstats/game/10472110/

Yeah, wrong. You weren't the only one not negative KD/R. I was 5/4, so nice try. All you did was whine and complain, and guess what I did votekick meepo every time they tried to. So why ruin it for people that are doing all they can, just because you think its "unfair"?

You act so tough in the game acting like you dont care yet here you are crying asking for forgiveness. Take this ban like a man, and guess what theres probably more coming. Thank you Beerlord for actually acting on this.

[BeerLord]

So, a few things.
A game ruin ban is a descriptive term. It does not imply that you personally ruined the game. It encompasses a variety of transgressions such as afk, intentional feed, failure to defend, failure to cooperate, item sale, item destruction. All of those are grouped under the heading of game ruin. You shouldnt get caught up in the semantics there.

You were banned for a combination of flaming, failing to defend, and failing to cooperate with your allies, which you admit to here. Arguing over the semantics of who ruined the game is not useful, or even relevant. A typo listing the wrong time on what appeared to me to possibly be an intentional feed is also not really relevant. Taking that out of the equation all together would still get you banned.

You are correct in your assertion that 5 days is too long for this, and I apologize. It should have been 3, and I will change it.

[Naruto-fr]

Lol I don't care at all, I just don't like unfairness, Fantom you did vk but it seems it was the one who reported me who refused to vk til meepo fed 0-11. Anyway, 3 days ban seems fairer, I am a regular player, I have played this game almost everyday for years and years... I have also stopped playing on ENT for 1 or 2 years because of a stupid mod banning me once for 3 days for a stupid reason in 2014... I am the sort of guy who can react excessively when I find something unfair... After so many years of game, I can't stand anymore those shit trolls and smurfers playing on ENT, it is like everyone can't play and win properly here, it is quite sad to see people refusing to vk this sort of game ruiner...
But this game was lost even with my help as none of you got any teamplay, I was focused in every battle and was not playing a carry hero.
Beerlord, normally you should ban a player with real facts... when you point out that at 61mins I suicided on purpose whereas the game lasted for 45 mins... There is an issue, you did not look at the whole game correctly and judged me only with the fact that I was toxic and flaming hard (some usual things when I get angry in a game )... When I was saying I go dagon lvl 5, did you see me doing it? The answer is no and I got agamin refresher like all WL player should do...

Anyway bye noobs!

[Astros]

You can only drop from 2000 elo to 1300 elo if you're toxic to your teammates and give up. Just reading the chat, this was just nasty behavior that did not help his teammates in any way. Though his team didn't listen to his initial request to push, that isn't a valid reason to flame, discourage, refuse to help, and bicker continuously while his team was still competitively trying to win the game. On the flaming part alone and him admitting to not helping, I think a few days ban is more than fair. But @beerlord, there is another ban request on him for the same particular behavior.

http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 490866.w3g

I can't say for sure that he is game-ruining based on his gameplay but his behavior is again, remarkably similar to this game.

He's constantly flaming his teammates calling them noob, trash, losers, garbage, and mocks them as they die.

(26:26 / Allied) naruto-fr: xD
(26:31 / Allied) naruto-fr: die noob for this ks

(27:55 / All) naruto-fr: gj
(27:58 / All) naruto-fr: kill this trahs sniper

(44:11 / All) naruto-fr: lol i need to loose
(44:13 / All) naruto-fr: good thing

(07:58 / Allied) naruto-fr: dead
(08:00 / Allied) naruto-fr: cahrged
(08:00 / Allied) naruto-fr: xD

There is a pattern with this guy's behavior that transcends game after game. His toxic language and demeanor alone is enough to qualify as a game-ruin.

[BeerLord]

Again, the 61 min was a typo. I watched the entire game.

[BeerLord]

Ban length adjusted to 3 days. Since player indicated no desire to pursue this further with the bye noobs comment, I will process this.