Jazzy3113

[Jazzy3113]

Damn Jazzy I don't understand how you can play a game with me where you play a great game, good manner in all chat and say gg at the end of the game: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12217588 (and yes I out-carried you, but if you play like that every game you are easily 1200 elo and 2 kd). Why dont you just play like you did in this game all the time, you were a really fun opponent to play against

and then on the other hand you do this

I want to propose a new punishment. Jazzy doesn't get banned, but does have chat permanently disabled and can only type pre-determined phrases (e.g. ss, push, rosh)

TELL ME DUDE HOW WOULD YOU FEEL?

you think i want to rage and not just relax and enjoy. the game you posted is a perfect snap shot for me. i take your advice. I dont rage. i get the items that are advised to me. i dont rage. i dont flame. i play well.

WHAT DO I GET IN RETURN? 4 MORONS TEAMMATES. DO YOU RMEMEBRE WHAT HOTL DID THAT GAME? HE WAS 1-8 AND SUCKED ALL GAME.

i didnt say a word and nothing changed. your advice is dont flame and people will be motivated to not suck. did it help me that game?

You should click through the losses on my account. I deal with these same idiots.

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12217368 - I got trolled hard by the same person who was the KOTL in your game and lost despite bringing a significant advantage as a carry hero. Rest of team was relatively ineffective.

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12217295 - ET, who is usually pretty good, does horribly on my team and I have basically an AFK tree, plus master_pain doing his usual thing. We lose despite me going 6/0 early with a power carry.

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12217194 - Lost because my entire team were feeder apes. I was only positive KD.

Those are my 3 most recent losses, I didn't deserve any of that shit but it happened anyways. This happens to EVERY single dota player. You're not unique in getting teams of idiots.

The point isn't to avoid 100% of teams like that. It's to play better on average and win the winnable games. Maybe 20% of games are always going to be losses due to a shit team, and maybe 20% are always going to be wins due to a pro team. Those games don't matter. Focus on the other games that you do have control over, which is most of them. If you consistently play like you did in the game with me, you will end up with more good games and fewer horrible games like this one. You 100% would have won that game if I wasn't carrying there.

I try hard to ignore but i dont have your will power.

tomex is such a moron and he wont even listen. I BEG HIM TO PLEASE NOT GET MANA BOOTS ON JUGG. FUCKING BEG HIM. HE DOESNT LISTEN.

i dont have your will power.

all i can say, is that i even have one normal teammate i dont rage. BUT 4?! 4 AND I LOSE MY GOD DAMN MIND.

[Jazzy3113]

LET me tell you another thing that people do that they dont do to you.

look at my last few games. I had poobum, total dogshit player for 4 games. the last game he is against me, he gets omni and teamplays.

how do you explain that? do people suck for you and then turn around and play normal the next game against you? this is a reoccurring thing for me.

[Astros]

Have you tried creating a new account, not typing, and then confirm if they're doing it to you intentionally or maybe you're just dealing with what everyone else deals with but don't complain about it vocally?

It's an easy thing to do and would be interesting to see if after X amount of games, if you end up in the same position you are in currently.

[EdteOfChaos2]

I mean, it's just part of dota to accept some random losses. Always something you can learn from it anyways I guess. Like when I got stomped by antimage as Leoric, I learned that's a pretty good counter and used it against jub3 when he picked Leo and rolled him.

Losing a game you had no chance in is always frustrating but you just need to leave it in the past and go to next game... dodge the really horrible people like bobby and claude. For the most part, there's nothing personal between players in 99% of games. Someone always wins and someone always loses, but if I get owned by someone I just respect their gameplay, I can play on their team next time and be fine. When you take it so personally and randomly accuse people like kunkka of joining your team to troll you (even though he literally carried you that game) you just make them not want to ever play with you again.

how do you explain that? do people suck for you and then turn around and play normal the next game against you? this is a reoccurring thing for me.

Yeah this happened all the time, which is why I stopped using a main account way back in the day. People join advantaged team to fuck around and play techies or something. Now it happens randomly, e.g. ET doing badly one game with me despite usually being very good, I never hold that against people though. They are trying for the most part and people have bad games. I have bad games too. I experience it plenty of times where the shitty 600 elo player decides to play serious against me one game, that's a pretty common occurrence.

[mk4r32]

This Jazzy has an excuse for everything.

How do you talk shit to all your teammates but turn around expecting them to help you? You do it to yourself.

Biggest delusional hypocrite on here.
*Claims he doesn't use racist words : We all saw that wasn't true, his excuse was "yea, I only said it once out of anger"
*Claims he doesn't ruin : Goes afk/trolls and no dagger on axe, dies randomly with nerub's ult just standing there cuz he's too busy all chatting
*Claims he doesn't stack and has bad luck with mates : Stacks onto Ifck, picks destroyer which he has no clue how to play, gets called out and his excuse is "i'm 800 elo, i thought you were gonna carry me so I pick something new"

NGL, I actually felt bad for you when Astros was ripping you apart but it all makes sense. You can't be helped.
It's YOU that's the problem.

[EdteOfChaos2]

Also more on this, I go into each game with relatively blank expectations of each player. You've probably heard "past performance does not indicate future performance" and that's so true for dota. So many factors go into a game. I don't expect people to do well or to do badly based on their sd. Over many games with people, can learn who is more and less consistent, but there's always such high variance in how people do. I've been pleasantly surprised by even people like superballer before, and seem some horrendously bad play from high elos. Elo is just average game strength. The only thing that matters in an ongoing game is how people are playing THAT game. Not any of the previous ones. And I would always give people the benefit of the doubt and assume they didn't just join to grief me unless I have a specific reason to think otherwise.

Obviously some exceptions - like Bobby will always be horrible, and Jub3 will usually be a serious opponent so I try to counterpick and focus him whenever possible, things like that.

And you do the same thing as them, Jazzy. You play some great games of dota, then there's a game where you sit behind a tower flaming your team for half the game. Think your allies got "unlucky" to have you that game where you didn't play seriously?

[kunkka]

sorry Jazzy I didn't know I was supposed to be carrying your sorry ass from min 0 with a late game hero, it was totally on me

I debated in lobby - Jazzy or Jack - I ended up staying as I joined as Sentinel... next time maybe Jack, he seems more worth carrying

[Jazzy3113]

Have you tried creating a new account, not typing, and then confirm if they're doing it to you intentionally or maybe you're just dealing with what everyone else deals with but don't complain about it vocally?

It's an easy thing to do and would be interesting to see if after X amount of games, if you end up in the same position you are in currently.

This is what I will do.

I am going to make a new name and never pick NA.

I will then prove to all of you once and for all.

People purposely tank for me. Even the good players, when they are stuck on my team, they will use the game as a practice game and play some bs hero.

Also, in case anyone is bored. The last game I played, Tomex was against me. Guess how he played?

[Jazzy3113]

sorry Jazzy I didn't know I was supposed to be carrying your sorry ass from min 0 with a late game hero, it was totally on me

I debated in lobby - Jazzy or Jack - I ended up staying as I joined as Sentinel... next time maybe Jack, he seems more worth carrying

Just explain this to me.

When you are against me, you always go dagon bh and rape.

SO WHY, THE ONE TIME YOU ARE ON MY TEAM, YOU PICK SNIPER AND DIE EARLY. WHY? WHY NOT PLAY UR MAIN HERO? ADMIT IT, ITS CAUSE I WAS ON YOUR TEAM.

I know you purposely did that crap.

[kunkka]

Just explain this to me.

When you are against me, you always go dagon bh and rape.

SO WHY, THE ONE TIME YOU ARE ON MY TEAM, YOU PICK SNIPER AND DIE EARLY. WHY? WHY NOT PLAY UR MAIN HERO? ADMIT IT, ITS CAUSE I WAS ON YOUR TEAM.

I know you purposely did that crap.

simple, you are not worth picking a real hero to play against

[Jazzy3113]

Also more on this, I go into each game with relatively blank expectations of each player. You've probably heard "past performance does not indicate future performance" and that's so true for dota. So many factors go into a game. I don't expect people to do well or to do badly based on their sd. Over many games with people, can learn who is more and less consistent, but there's always such high variance in how people do. I've been pleasantly surprised by even people like superballer before, and seem some horrendously bad play from high elos. Elo is just average game strength. The only thing that matters in an ongoing game is how people are playing THAT game. Not any of the previous ones. And I would always give people the benefit of the doubt and assume they didn't just join to grief me unless I have a specific reason to think otherwise.

Obviously some exceptions - like Bobby will always be horrible, and Jub3 will usually be a serious opponent so I try to counterpick and focus him whenever possible, things like that.

And you do the same thing as them, Jazzy. You play some great games of dota, then there's a game where you sit behind a tower flaming your team for half the game. Think your allies got "unlucky" to have you that game where you didn't play seriously?

I am going to prove to you its a concerted effort by some players.

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12217634
poobum was omni. he repeled and healed sniper all game, we could not touch sniper. total team player.

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12217629
poo was omni. 0-8 and never healed or repeled me ONE TIME. i was 6-1 with radiance as weaver and our only chance. I WATCHED REPLAY, ONE HEAL HE GAVE ME WHEN I RAN RIGHT TO ME AND SCREAMED.

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12217624
POO is husk. GOES 9-15. 15 DEATHS!

Any way, I am going to do astros idea.

I will make a new name, not say crap and never choose NA.

After 20 games I will post. AND I HOPE YOU WILL THEN SEE, WITH A NEW NAME, I STILL WILL GET THIS.

it is simple variance. some of us have to be on the left end of the bell curve distribution.

You once told me to keep my mouth shut and people will try. you youself then posted a game where i didnt say a word and my team was all morons. even sage quest, who is a good player, was like 5-6.

so you will see. and then you will have to accept that i simply cannot get a fair shake in this thing.

[halo_mauler]

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