why do i get banned? and my stat got reseted?

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why do i get banned? and my stat got reseted?

Postby FlowerSnow » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:58 pm

Warcraft III username: flowersnow
Realm: west
Situation: banned and stat reseted
Why you should be unbanned: why?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1rqYNuDWmk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjLM9U8EsX4

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Re: why do i get banned? and my stat got reseted?

Postby ArOuNDThaWOrLD » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:01 pm

Apparently you've been proving of using some sort of boosting for your stats with your friend bugolgi.

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Re: why do i get banned? and my stat got reseted?

Postby FlowerSnow » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:03 pm

ArOuNDThaWOrLD wrote:Apparently you've been proving of using some sort of boosting for your stats with your friend bugolgi.

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Its not me who told him to do that and i even told him to stop lossing or else you will lose your skill.
srsly it doesnt make sence. ppl from clan high did this all the time on purpose with 2+ ppl.
and i got banned and reseted stat?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1rqYNuDWmk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjLM9U8EsX4

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Re: why do i get banned? and my stat got reseted?

Postby bulgogi » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:27 pm

lol why does flower get blamed for my actions. doesn't make sense. it was my own decision to mess around in pubs and throw games. i was on a quest to be the first account to reach 0 ELO for laughs. flower didn't condone my actions because he thought i would lose my skill from playing stupid.

in the games i played on this acct a bunch of skilled high rank players would switch to my team to get a boost for their stats. do u plan to reset all of their stats too?

why not punish the offender and clear all of my stats on 3 of my mains: rzr.Armada, xone, acct.idc.abt

*also, out curiosity how much total ELO did he gain from me "boosting" him? i'll bet its less than 20 or 30 elo. Don't u think wiping a 9 year old 2800 acct over 20 ELO to be a bit drastic?

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Re: why do i get banned? and my stat got reseted?

Postby smurfs » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:07 pm

This is the dumbest thing i've ever seen. Flower gets banned for someone else's actions. I've played several games with Flower when we had 4-800 elo players on our team. Why dont u ban those kids too. Resetting stats on the #1 persons account. I call personal issue with admins and Flower this is ludacris. Plus i know for a fact that this goes without punishment to many of the top players. Again personal issue with Flower. U just mad u not as good as him. #flowersnow#1

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Re: why do i get banned? and my stat got reseted?

Postby Power101 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:11 pm

Admins have evidence and look at how he brings his army to defend!

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Re: why do i get banned? and my stat got reseted?

Postby aRt)Y » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:15 pm

For someone who neither plays DotA on ENT nor knows him, I can ensure you to be not biased (just as the rest of the staff).

He actively took advantage of the elo boost and received the punishment for it.
His friend(s) obviously did the same which is the reason he received the same punishment.
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Re: why do i get banned? and my stat got reseted?

Postby ArOuNDThaWOrLD » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:16 pm

Here is the full evidence if you want to take a look --> viewtopic.php?f=24&t=18443
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Re: why do i get banned? and my stat got reseted?

Postby smurfs » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:20 pm

I did this out of my own time had no idea till now haven't spoken to flower about it at all. Looked at stats didnt see his name at top so looked at forum and saw this. U gonna ban all the other people and reset their stats then too? Cause thats not right for u to solo out Flower and not everyone else who played in those games as well. LIke I said, personal issue with flower. You get a hard on banning him and resetting his stats i get it, but be fair admins. If he broke the rules, then everyone else who played with him did too. Ban one ban all?..... Just looked at all the games and its like 4 games so why not delete those for games and give ban lessoned learned? Extremist admins towards flower all i can say.... Sad guys... very sad

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Re: why do i get banned? and my stat got reseted?

Postby aRt)Y » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:23 pm

You can be as provocative as you want to be, no one cares about that.
Our decision is based on the evidence we linked to you.

The difference between him and his friends compared to the publics is:
They didn't purposely elo boosted. They didn't know about it.
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Re: why do i get banned? and my stat got reseted?

Postby ArOuNDThaWOrLD » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:24 pm

I have nothing to do with this case. Just posting the evidence the staff found in that thread.
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Re: why do i get banned? and my stat got reseted?

Postby child » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:44 pm

Can i just offer an opinion? I have played probably 15 times w/ flower and I do not think he is the kind of person or player who would do this continually. I do not see why he needs the extra help to be honest, hes a vocal and generally polite teammate.
I do think it is a bit despicable though and I lost a lot of respect for him. But I am also guessing that this did not start very long ago... I suggest wiping whatever amount of elo he has gained in that time period X 2. Its not only about the elo... its the games played and won and the kdr. I even offered to smurf for flower on a new acc when he asked if I wanted to play once in a while on my 1500 elo acc (i would never pull this losing on purpose crap) but he said he didn't care either way.

I think in this case prudence should be observed and strictly sticking to a rule would be a shame. I mean he is undoubtedly one of the most skilled, most games played, and longest member of ent who has never really violated any rules or been negative influence on the community -- haha except for maybe a little too cocky at times

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Re: why do i get banned? and my stat got reseted?

Postby rzr.Armada » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:28 pm

lol you guys think i'm 2k ELO, that's sweet.

I want to confirm that i've only been using the bulgogi account for less than a month. the admins can go check for themselves to verify that. I honestly think that the original punishment suggested was fair.

"I propose a reduction on flowersnow and a stats wipe on all of rzr.armada's accounts"

be reasonable

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Re: why do i get banned? and my stat got reseted?

Postby Yondaime » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:30 pm

We are being reasonable.

Stats reset is fair.

Ban length is fair as I agreed with it.

The type of boosting you were doing is wrong and not fair to anyone at all.

Denied. Bans will stay as will the Stats reset. I hope you have learned your lesson.
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