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Your Warcraft III username: dlcks.
Realm/Gateway: U.S. East
Why are you banned: Not Kicking Ruiner
Why you should be unbanned: I'm currently banned for not kicking a Ruiner, with no link to the game, no link to the ban request, no link to the post, no notifications or inbox messages, etc. Can you please link me to the game in question so I can see what I'm banned for? I really have no way of appealing it.

And for the future, you guys really should set up a system that at least links or notifies you for something like this. Instead of me aimlessly scrolling through ban requests that don't mention my user names or accounts, where I'm scrolling through posts from the guy who banned me to try and figure it out. Thanks

Hello @Abcdefg1 ,

you are currently banned for this game : viewtopic.php?t=102777
You already guessed why.

In order for you to find why you're banned, you can simply validate your accounts under the ENTLink : https://entgaming.net/link/
And then check the "Are you banned?" link in there.

Is this serious?

First vote kick: no reason
Second vote kick: not afk
Third vote kick: afk for 30 seconds
Fourth vote kick: fully afk, and I voted to kick

He may have been ruining, but he wasn't visibly ruining. No one on sentinel has any idea what this guy is doing in the fog. He's not feeding, he's a similar level to everyone else, and he's not afk. As you can see he keeps resetting the afk timer every minute. Please be more careful when banning people.

@Abcdefg1
Actually, it went like this :
1 votekick 100% abusive. It's good that you didn't vote on it.
2nd votekick 100% valid, and a reason was given.
3rd votekick 100% valid, and a reason was given.
4th votekick 100% valid, and a reason was given.

You voted on the 5th.

A reason was given for the first one too. And it turned out to be false. I'm supposed to vote yes every time someone says something? What if I voted yes on the first one? I'm banned for vote kick abuse. Can't win here can I?

@Abcdefg1
Please head over to our wiki page, take a moment to read our rules ( especially the votekick specific ones ), and then copy paste the one you broke here.
After doing that, i am sure you will realise why the penalty was applied in this case.

I'm sure this is the one you're referring to:

You are obligated to !votekick any player that has broken any of ENT's rules. If someone or several indicate that a particular player is game ruining, you, as a player in the game, are obligated to question/check about the situation/claim.

However, I would ask you to consider this one in future reviews (which is pretty contradictory):

You are free to refuse to votekick someone when there is lack of evidence/visible rule violation. However, communicate your decision via all chat, too.

@Abcdefg1

Abcdefg1 wrote:You are free to refuse to votekick someone when there is lack of evidence/visible rule violation. However, communicate your decision via all chat, too.

Could you please copy paste the chat that proves you actually investigated the situation, and then consiously decided to reject the votekick?

Two instances of "-afk", the second one, which yeilded a substantial afk time, is when I voted to kick.

@Abcdefg1
There were 3 votekicks.

When the first one started, you said nothing. Neither did you vote.

Same exact deal with the 2nd one.

You actually typed -afk at 2730, long after the 2nd votekick was over.

At that point, troll2 was afk for over 4 minutes, and you had missed 2 votekicks, which is exactly why you are banned.

Abcdefg1 wrote:However, I would ask you to consider this one in future reviews (which is pretty contradictory):

You are free to refuse to votekick someone when there is lack of evidence/visible rule violation. However, communicate your decision via all chat, too.

So, please, enlighten me. How exactly does that commend fit in this situation?

When you type -afk and it says he isn't afk, that's a lack of visible evidence. You can see him clearly resetting the timer, but I can't. That's true, I didn't type it to all.

@Abcdefg1

FalenGa wrote:When the first one started, you said nothing. Neither did you vote.

Same exact deal with the 2nd one.

You actually typed -afk at 2730, long after the 2nd votekick was over.

http://wiki.entgaming.net/index.php?tit ... ng:VKRules
You are obligated to !votekick any player that has broken any of ENT's rules. If someone or several indicate that a particular player is game ruining, you, as a player in the game, are obligated to question/check about the situation/claim.

I side with Falenga on this one: Despite the fact there was a votekick abuse or not, you are responsible for voting (or not voting) and the rules are clear on that one + this:

You are free to refuse to votekick someone when there is lack of evidence/visible rule violation. However, communicate your decision via all chat, too.

When a votekick is properly initiated, everyone (allies/enemies) are responsible for voting !yes or !no - If you have enough evidence to vote for it, then go ahead; If you suspect it's abusive, or you don't have clear evidence of the rule violation, then communicate it via all chat (ask for the reason, clarifications, communicate why you're not voting, etc)

Being silent is pretty much equal to refusal to votekick (since you don't vote and/or communicate your decision/opinion either)

Solution? Easy, in the future votekicks, all that is asked from you, is to votekick accordingly, and in case there's lack of evidence, ask/communicate in all chat xd

Expired.