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np for inconvenience

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:33 am
by UltraKill
Your Warcraft III username: furion[k:d]
Realm/Gateway: us.east
Why are you banned: afk/grief, some other bull
Why you should be unbanned: ok first of all did admin even watch replay or just read game chat? Second, my score was 8/12/6, highest in K+A and almost highest in D which tells about my team game participation. Third, I am playing a hero with 20sec cd global teleport, I dont use boots, because I play a build where I always need extra item spot (I ward/deward). My game play is pretty much: tp into action, tp back to fountain to heal, then again tp into action, tp to fountain. If im at fountain it doesnt mean im afk, griefing, it means im looking for where to tp. Fourth when you were writing in chat "(49:52 / Allied) PaperRoses: grief at fount (49:54 / Allied) PaperRoses: posting" all of our team was dead and I was only alive. And since other team was owning us even if all of us were alive I stayed at fountain and waited for you guys to revive. Me going and trying to defend would mean sure death. You posting me for that????????

Any other questions?

Re: np for inconvenience

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:36 am
by UltraKill
he says that my phrase is grief????
(49:31 / Allied) furion[k:d]: go carry
(49:37 / Allied) furion[k:d]: solo mid

is he in his mind? I literally was asking him to go carry without any sarcasm or grief. I was participating in every team action, other than suicidal ones, I was pushing creeps non stop, warding, how do I get ban? What was i supposed else to do?

Re: np for inconvenience

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:04 am
by BeerLord
You should know by now that i never issue a ban without watching the game. What I saw was you tp'ing bottom when sent came to rax top, and ending the game afk at the fountain with naix, while 1 allie was alive and trying to defend.

Re: np for inconvenience

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:22 pm
by UltraKill
@BeerLord
TPing bottom when sent came to rax top is against the rules? First - my teleport is 20 sec cooldown. I mean I coulda just stayed fountain, waiting for a moment to teleport to defend top, but I decided to do something useful for a team (push a lane, bottom lane had no enemy heroes so I set my hero on autoattack and was observing top, was ready to tp anytime). Second - I'm not a tank hero or playing tank build. Brown was dead, and he was another key player in team. I saw it pointless defending without him. Sometimes its better to wait for your ally to revive, than go and all die trying to defend without him even if its a rax. Then brown revives and we are all dead? I mean K/D was 53:23 at the time in favor of enemy team. Third, naix and storm were staying fountain while I was doing at least something useful for a team, what did you want me to do to go in 1v4???????

Man I play FURION, I have a 20 sec cd GLOBAL TELEPORT. If I'm AT FOUNTAIN or somewhere else - doesnt mean Im AFK/GRIEFING/REFUSING TO DEFEND, means - IM LOOKING FOR WHERE TO TELEPORT. Now, if 1 allie thats trying to defend in 56:23 game to enemys favour goes out alone and tries to defend, especially if he is not tank - its not my problem. I rather wait for everyone to revive and go to defend then. Its the only way to turn tables around !!!!!!!!!!!

Like come on, watch the whole game, thats my GAME STYLE!!!!!! I spent 1/3 of game at the fountain maybe, but thats not against the rules!!!! I was getting my farm like others, look how many times I teleported to help team, thats just how a pro plays furion. At the end we were just getting more and more owned, and there was less and less good action. Mostly mates were suiciding 1 by 1.

Re: np for inconvenience

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:38 pm
by UltraKill
admin what kind of bull are you writing me up for "afk/grief/failure to def tid 126030 (game ruining)"??? I just had to read the rules because of you:
Do not ruin the game on purpose: Do not go away from keyboard for an excessive amount of time, especially without telling other players beforehand, and/or refuse to play the game in an attempt to ruin it. Neither are you allowed to grief by resetting the afk timer.

1st, I never went away from "keyboard", I never had any attempts to "ruin" the game. I was never resetting any "afk timers", I never wrote any "griefing phrases" in chat, was among the most active players in team. This brown was just a new account, with 4/0 W/L and like 25/1 K/D. That game he got owned and he decided to take his anger on us and you bought his bull. I swear thats what happened.

Re: np for inconvenience

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:47 pm
by UltraKill
Either time you accuse me of afk and refuse to defend - brown was dead (me and brown were key players in team). We were getting owned that game (end score around 56:23). It is stupid/dumb/ridiculous to go defend with one of your best players dead in such a game, enemies had TONNES OF DPS. I was playing furi, you saying I just go suicide or what???? Im not even saying again about my 20 sec global tp, which means I could be anywhere, any time. If team decided to defend top, and im bot - doesnt mean im refusing to def. I have GLOBAL TELEPORT ONCE AGAIN!

Re: np for inconvenience

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:18 pm
by NJELRC
You play for k/d nothing else same thing every game you go dagon loths then tp to ks your name even says it , the fact is you lie and take no responsibility for wrong doing is not going to help, you refused to defend more then once and stayed at fount you were fully aware as i satted in chat i would post on none defenders


chat below is clear he knew what he doing
Spoiler!
(45:55 / Allied) furion[k:d]: laal
(45:58 / Allied) furion[k:d]: 7-14 mid
(49:00 / Allied) furion[k:d]: !ff
(49:31 / Allied) furion[k:d]: go carry
(49:37 / Allied) furion[k:d]: solo mid
(49:52 / Allied) PaperRoses: grief at fount
(49:54 / Allied) PaperRoses: posting
(50:46 / Allied) PaperRoses: refuse to def is bannable
(51:03 / Allied) furion[k:d]: ok
(51:05 / Allied) furion[k:d]: report me


Global tp has nothing to do with defend your rax more then once and you hiding at fount,

Re: np for inconvenience

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:31 pm
by UltraKill
chat and game are different things, dg was griefing from start, but he participated in game. Yes I typed FF once, when I saw that game was surely lost and enemies were fountain farming. Its not against the rules, KS not against the rules (and 80% of my kills are not KS).
Global tp has nothing to do with defend your rax more then once and you hiding at fount,
give me exact time what are you talking about

Re: np for inconvenience

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:56 pm
by NJELRC
Just stop making things up, enemy didnt fountain farm. chat and game are linked because the chat tells exactly what you were saying and doing at that time where i said please defend and i would report non defenders then you said (51:05 / Allied) furion[k:d]: report me , no ks is not against the rules but you ks to play for k/d and because you play only for kills you wouldnt defend incase you got killed and not defending is against the rules which u did on at least 2 occasion in this game , dg wasnt griefing he was flameing and he has been banned for that.

The problem you have is rather then hold your hands up and say sorry and it wont happen again which probaly would of had ban reduced or something .but instead you keep making up lies excuses and try to justify what you did and even go as far as blaming beer not watching replays but i have been here many years and beer always watchs replays and his review is spot on. blameing everyone else for your actions will not work.

Re: np for inconvenience

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:40 pm
by UltraKill
Just stop making things up, enemy didnt fountain farm
the thing is, you are trying to make things up. I said the game was sure lost - you disagree with that??? Please every one watch replay and tell me that game was not sure lost..... Maybe they didnt fountain farm but for me the situation we were at it was the same thing.
chat and game are linked because the chat tells exactly what you were doing at that time
no comment.
(51:05 / Allied) furion[k:d]: report me
yes I said that cuz I get threats every day that people will report me for ks, mh and many other bullshit. Im tired of justifying myself to noobs for every little thing, its way easier to tell them to report you. Then they calm down and I calm down.
no ks is not against the rules
then stop talking about ks, thats all that matters.

And sorry for swearing, but please tell me anyone HOW THE FUCK YOU WANTED ME TO DEFEND? HOW THE FUCK? ... in a game where we are outleved/outfarmed and some of my teammates dead.... HOW THE FUCK? WHAT WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO? IM NOT EVEN A TANK OR INITIATOR HERO, WHAT THE FUCK WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO?

Please watch replay again, tell me something in this format "at 40:42 furi coulda teleported and successfully defend rax etc...." I swear I will accept a monthly ban if I actually stayed fountain and refused to defend while team was actually defending (not suiciding).

Re: np for inconvenience

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:49 am
by BeerLord
To keep it simple:

What I saw was you tp'ing bottom when sent came to rax top, and ending the game afk at the fountain with naix, while 1 allie was alive and trying to defend.

That will get you banned for failure to defend and afk/grief. Clearly, afk does not imply you were physically away from your keyboard. Game ruin is a term that is applied to include a variety of actions, such as afk, item sale, item destruction. It doesnt necessarily mean a player "ruined the game", nor is intent always required. For example, someone that goes afk at fountain for an unexpected visitor or something, is still going to get banned for afk/game ruin, when there clearly was no intent involved.

Re: np for inconvenience

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:32 am
by UltraKill
@BeerLord

So if noob is defending/suiciding I'm supposed to go defend/suicide with him otherwise afk/grief/game ruining? I mean yes you are right I did what you say but there literally was no chance.. only small chance to kill couple enemies if all team alive.

Re: np for inconvenience

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:03 am
by BeerLord
Well, I wouldnt want you to suicide, but I like even less having to ban a good player, who is passionate about this game. So perhaps a happy median can be found? Anyway, lets get you playing again.
Unbanned.