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dsfgrrw ban

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:05 am
by dsfgrrw
Your Warcraft III username: dsfgrrw
Realm/Gateway: east
Why are you banned: ?
Why you should be unbanned: unban i play game fine stop restrict

Re: dsfgrrw ban

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:23 am
by DJHentaiDaddy
You were banned because of maphack apparently.
I still disagree with coco mhing. He just plays this game 24/7.
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=10633770
At the end game, we trolled coco and it took him a good 10 minutes to find where we were.
Can other admins or mods review av1on's evidence?
Thanks

Re: dsfgrrw ban

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:52 am
by Schnuts
Agree with @djhentaidaddy

would also like to see further review

Re: dsfgrrw ban

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:14 am
by e0e0e0e0
ANALYZING AV1ONS BAN, REFER TO AV1ONS TIMESTAMPS, DASHES ARE MY NOTES/REFUTATIONS:
5:20 - Heads in direction of pink's workers/lb (broken fountain) and pearls on it to nuke.
-AT ABOUT 4MIN( ON REPLAY) OR 2:30 ON INGAME TIMER WHEN HE PEARLED U CAN SEE THE GNOLL WORKER, THIS GUY HAS PLAYED SO MANY GAMES HE WOULD OBV REMEMBER THAT NOT TO MENTION THE WALK TO NUKE PATHING IS NOT WALLED OFF (SO IT LOOKS LIKE JUICY FEED), LEGIT GAMEPLAY CONFIRMED.
7:12 - Uses orbs (volt) to scout over nature workers/nuke them with no vision prior. - Minor suspicion
-av1on cmon... this is probably within top 5 seeds of game. i usually send chim to scout this shit, or ill just blind nuke it with certain titans. any pro titan would say its more likely than not that theres workers in it on start. @kadse please attest to this u professional wholesome gentleman
15:20 - Heads in the top direction of bot-mid/left lb (2 entrance lb) instead of going for walls on the right entrance - Minor but it does further prove suspicion seeing as no vision of the wall at top entrance.
-wait what does this even mean??? he was trying to nuke the workers on the other side... he wasnt going to go thru the walls first, especially if there was a lot of workers, which would've preempted teal to detonate them... so the plan was to pearl it, rush to nuke, but they werent in range/or enuf to nuke so he just killed walls. this is not suspicious at all...
*Note: Lots of pearling over feed on this mark. First 15 minutes of the game and maybe finds feed in atleast 95% of his pearls. Watching the first minutes even can be self conclusive. It slowly escalates from convenience to suspicious.
-Go back to first 3 mins, approx 1/3 pearl success rate, he did fairly find all these lumber bases, more like note: he saw that gnoll worker with pearl at broken fountain (ha)
16:40 - Finds fruits/walls in the bot bot left base.
- he had vision of teal and his shelter that was located inside the base... the fruits were just collateral feed...
19:44 - Finds walls right of the top right entrance by demo. (Minor but again, this is all stacking up seeing as he went directly for them)
- stacking up onto a whole big mountain of nothing, because up to this timestamp, you havent proven anything,
23:00 - Pearls over yellows base - Again, this is just one of many instances where most of his pearls reveal something.
-uses pearl almost always right after cd, consistent pearling will reveal a lot. especially when there is still, 9 builders... also he hasnt pearled this area in a while
28:03 - Pearls over top left when his generic spot is bot right/top right and euro conveniently as a base is being made.
- he pearled euro at around 25 mins... takes a few mins to set up base, if he saw a builder there and building walls maybe he wouldve went there but since he did not, he can assume for about the next 3-5 mins, its safe to not pearl there. also, did u know that top right, top left, bot mid and euro are most common bases? lol... maybe u would if u tit :)
30:28 - Finds taurens arc despite no vision.
- now this is just hilarious.... he killed the goblin base top left about 1-2 mins prior to this timestamp. u do know that when titan kills someone that he gets map vision? LOL, how u think he find that gnoll base bud?
33:12 - Was gonna send mini back to base but immediately turns around and heads back to main when satyr is heading up the same pathway.
- did u know that minions can heal? and with volt its really beneficial to have that minion around for shorter heal times. this tit was at like 20% hp with no strong regen... he needs that heal so he sends it back up regardless of the satyr.
42:28 - Finds tauren in seed next to mid, no vision/pearl beforehand.
- look at time ~41:30 he pearls and can see tauren in all his glory lumbering away. also it can be assumed that people will lumber if nothing to do...
45:40 - Finds mag in a seed bot left of mound, no vision/pearl beforehand.
- Check time ~43:20 he pearled mag... so yes. "pearl beforehand." confirmed.
46:27 - Pearls directly on top of mag after he tp's.
- did u know that u point in the direction u tp. also there is only a few places to anchor a tp... it doesnt take much to know that he teleported over there with only 2 SUPPORTS left...

At start, up to about 3 min in he is spamming pearl everytime off cd? about 1/3 pearl feed find success rate, 9 builders on map(so lots of feed,especially with this nub teal); seems legit gameplay.

TLDR; DSFGRRW's gamesense is level 100. av1on half-assed this ban with non-sensical "evidence" that the banned person cannot refute because of not having a strong english lexicon, and probably just hates losing as builder (not trying to be personal but he does seem biased towards nerfing titans moar) This guy dsfgrrw/coco is a top-tier pubstomping pleb rapist, but not a hacker, deserves unban.

Re: dsfgrrw ban

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:08 pm
by DCC
Agree with @e0e0e0e0.

Many of his pearls are off the mark/reveal nothing, or are common pearl spots in the first place. Also, little movements such as one around 25-26 mins in bot left where his Titan starts moving the opposite direction are because he sends a move command past Mak's unseen walls. If he was maphacking, he'd simply put the move location before them.

Also, at 33:57, if he was MHing then he would have moved more down and right away from Satyr to give his heal and WW chance to recharge and not lose ankh.

Re: dsfgrrw ban

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:05 pm
by TimmyTheTauren
Agree that coco does not maphack. At a certain point after many games, a player develops an instinct of where builders might go and what commonly used bases are. Coco also plays a ridiculous amount on top of being naturally skilled with good game mechanics. With that many games - yeah some of your gameplay might look suspicious. However, look at the entirety of gameplay and you will realize that there is just as much proving against mh.

Don't ban a player for being better than you. Let us know when you have a fog click.

Re: dsfgrrw ban

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:28 pm
by Lynx
coco is playing this game on another level and will soon reach pongu/plus status, as timmy says you get a feel for the game once you get good at it. We should welcome people like coco in our community, not witch hunt them and ban them for rules that shouldnt exist(his tk ban) or by really lowering the requirement as mh cases go.

TimmyTheTauren wrote:Agree that coco does not maphack. At a certain point after many games, a player develops an instinct of where builders might go and what commonly used bases are. Coco also plays a ridiculous amount on top of being naturally skilled with good game mechanics. With that many games - yeah some of your gameplay might look suspicious. However, look at the entirety of gameplay and you will realize that there is just as much proving against mh.

Don't ban a player for being better than you. Let us know when you have a fog click.

+1

Re: dsfgrrw ban

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:41 pm
by Quetra
Well, all this is rather irrelevant now as the player has dodged his ban.

Appeal denied since good faith is gone.