Unban me

[grizzlyBear112]

Your Warcraft III username: hackerMan
Realm/Gateway: Europe
Why are you banned: Sending Dino lvl. 1
Why you should be unbanned: Hey, I just send the Dino at the start, because I rolled phantoms and I wanted to get 6g for the second phantom on lvl 2. Its not like I'm refusing to communicate with my team members or trolling them. Maybe it was a bad decision. Thats true. But I think this this is not worth a ban, just because I did a mistake. If you look in my history then u see that I never leave games, or play against my team members nor am I raging at anyone (like op of ban request). So could you pls unban me ? I feel its not fair.

[cyrlexjr]

it still count as solo send

[CrushOrange]

While there are definitely reasons to solo send(ex a militia when you roll harlot holder after 1) I think that the important thing to do is talk to your teammates before you send and tell them that you are sending and why. With proper team communication this should never be an issue.

[Ben_T]

Hello hackerMan,

please link us the general rules and the game specific rules of the game(s) you got banned in, and highlight the specific rule(s) you believe you violated.
You can find them on our wiki.

That way, we can ensure another rule-violation by you, caused by not-knowing the rules, will not happen again. After linking us to the rules, we expect you to have read them. Cooperating with us will have a positive effect on your ban duration.

[grizzlyBear112]

Refusing to cooperate by sending alone and not save-send with teammates to win.

[Zeratul]

Tbh, this ban was wrong - He clearly explained he needed to send 2, and he even explained afterwards why he sent the dino:

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(00:35 / Allied) hackerMan: need to send 2

After this one, your team could have noticed it, and actually discuss a better send (send 2, instead of wars on 1), but nope, they decided they wanted to warriors

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(01:37 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: oj reported
(01:42 / Allied) derGloeckner: nice dino brop
(01:46 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: y i report him
(02:11 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: hopefully oj gets banned
(02:37 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: warroprs
(02:40 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: would made purp leak
(02:51 / Allied) hackerMan: ye but i cant afford it with phantoms
(02:53 / Allied) hackerMan: i need 6 g
(02:56 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: enjoy ban oj
(02:58 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: cant afford?
(03:00 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: they king leak
(03:03 / Allied) hackerMan: ...
(03:08 / Allied) hackerMan: need 3rd phantom
(03:17 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: go with your 3:rd phatom
(03:27 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: and enjoy your last game
(03:29 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: its up 5 min after game
(03:30 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: oh
(03:31 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: 13 g left
(03:33 / Allied) hackerMan: i wont be banned
(03:33 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: amazing
(03:41 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: ofcourse you will
(03:47 / Allied) hackerMan: for what?
(03:59 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: Refusing to cooperate by sending alone
(04:02 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: you sent dino alone
(04:05 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: insteed of warriors
(04:06 / Allied) hackerMan: sending alone?
(04:09 / Allied) hackerMan: i sent with you
(04:11 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: dino
(04:12 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: not war
(04:14 / Allied) hackerMan: like i told, i need 6g
(04:15 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: means you sent alone
(04:20 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: its up 5 min after game
(04:23 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: the report
(04:26 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: you can check on ent
(04:33 / Allied) hackerMan: its fine
(04:40 / Allied) hackerMan: i can just tell them the reason and thats it
(05:05 / Allied) CyrleX[BoR]: they dont care about the reason if everyone went for war send

And as far as ruling goes, 1 instance wasn't enough to warrant a ban (specially when there was reasonable explanation from him to send on 2, and why he sent the dino instead) - It's 1 thing to troll send, and another to send a dino due to needing the 6g (Yes they could have king leaked, but u cant be sure about that till it happens)

So he dindt solo send, and in regards to refusing to cooperate, he had offered reasonable explanation (he informed early he needed to send 2 + informed why he needed the dino send - you cant rely on king leaks as you never know what might happen, for example a lod easily holds wars and goes mid, and rip king leaks)

[cyrlexjr]

Zeratul so your point is like if ihave phatntom or prisoner i can always solo send dino when my team want warriors?

[Zeratul]

Zeratul so your point is like if ihave phatntom or prisoner i can always solo send dino when my team want warriors?

Before making idiotic assumptions, read my post:

[*]he informed he needed to send 2 earlier than you called warriors, to which you and your team ignored

[*]he sent dino as he needed the gold (he dindt solo send as he sent with the team) and he explained why (your response "king leak?" is wrong as you cant be sure there will be any king leaks to assure he gets the 6g necessary), so considering he informed early, and he still explained why he sent, it was reasonable to deny the request, considering there was only 1 instance: mb he could have said "i cant wars, i need the 6g, go furb 2 instead", he informed you early about his need to send 2 and what did you do? Just call wars not paying attention to your team at all

So yeah i stand by my view:

[*]he informed he needed the send on 2
[*]he explained why dino and was polite explaining it
[*]only 1 instance

[pr0totype]

I agree with zeratul on this.

One instance is very rarely banned for, especially if it is a necessity - i.e. needing 1g for engi or 6g for phantom or prisoner and it is stated.

You simply can't assume they will king leak unless you 100% know what the opposite team has.

[Ben_T]

Accepted. Unbanning.