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Appeal

Postby prohunter » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:29 pm

Your Warcraft III username: Prohunter
Realm/Gateway: US east
Why are you banned: solo send claimed by AmnoN who is a judge as well
Why you should be unbanned:

Here is the game link:
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=11211241

I disagreed AmnoN because I was aware we needed up king for 10. I understood he like to send 12 but it is not realistic since none of us can handle lvl 10. I can't persuade AmnoN but we did leak a lot of bosses at 10 even without sent from opponents. We scrambled to up king and sending 12 is not realistic. I did plan to send 14 but sent 2 gargs by mistake because I was arguing with AmnoN and red. I stopped sending as soon as I realize it wasn't 14 yet.

It is sad if you have one judge as player since he was right of course. If you can't persuade him, you are banned for solo send. By the way, I am not solo sender, I just realized we need to up king. And it proved that I was correct at 10.
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Re: Appeal

Postby Jabba41 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:07 pm

@prohunter You shouldnt just make decisions on your own and force them on your team, in case you were right in this game by upping the king you still might have went over the top. Keep this is mind :)

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Re: Appeal

Postby AmnoN » Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:00 am

@prohunter
Upped solo on 8 when we had called 12. Purple only upped once as opposed to using all wood.
You used ALL of your wood on 10 as opposed to having others contribute a bit as well (common strategy that people up a certain amount each to avoid someone not having enough wood to send - e.g. 3 attack each, 2 regen each, etc.) which forced us to change our send timing from 12 (only you had insufficient wood for 12 as a result). It wasn't even close to necessary to use that much wood for the king on 10 - had over 5,000 HP left on King.
Started send on 13 when 14 was agreed to - potentially caused us to lose race since you could not send as much on 14.

I don't know how much clearer this can be. You went against the team's calls multiple times.

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Re: Appeal

Postby prohunter » Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:17 pm

To be fair, you shouldn't be a judge since you are one player in this game.

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Re: Appeal

Postby Jabba41 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:07 pm

@prohunter

You can still comment on what AmnoN told you as its the reason why youre banned.
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Re: Appeal

Postby prohunter » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:12 am

I am glad Amnon pointed that purple upped king too. I am not alone when making such a judgement that we need to up king before lvl 10. Hence 50% of the our team like to up king. When we scrambled to up king, there was no time to measure how many we should up. Even I did make excess upgrade on king, that doesn't make a legitimate ban on a player who made a correct judgement ahead of lvl 10. If you talk about common practice, it is common practice to up king before income at lvl8, if planning send at 12.

As for the two gargs sent on lvl 13, I admitted that was a mistake 1st time and stopped right away when they told me it is not 14 yet. I don't think that was banable if the sent was made by mistake, not on purpose.

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Re: Appeal

Postby AmnoN » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:31 am

@prohunter This is an entirely objective view:

Round 8 - You solo upped king - no question about it. Also, purple only upped once and stopped when we had said so - you used ALL of your wood
Round 10 - You spammed upgrades on the king when we planned to send 12. There was no scramble and was methodical - people upped their respective shares (e.g. 3 attack each, etc.). Again, this changed send timing which could have changed the game.
Round 13, 14 - You solo sent because you felt like going 13. Yes, you stopped when we said to, but this was the 3rd time that game that you refused to listen to teammates and decided to play solo.

There is absolutely no reason that I cannot judge a ban from a game that I am in - I presented facts and no opinions on the matter. Also, instead of trying to demonstrate how you will change your behaviour, you keep trying to justify what you did and make excuses. Feel free to sit the rest of your ban out and hopefully you will change your attitude going forward.

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