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Unfair Ban (Lots of accounts)

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:00 pm
by Zio
Your Warcraft III username: Zio.; FcK; No)SkiLL-; SeFoDeU
Realm/Gateway: Europe
Why are you banned: Dodging
Why you should be unbanned: Got a long ban on my main account Zio. and then all my other accounts got banned.
First of all, heres the topic that got me banned:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=132735
Its supposed to ban my accounts Zio. and SeFoDeU, but for some reason, i'd guess some mods don't like me, other accounts that never offended the rules got banned too.
My account got banned so i used my other smurfs to play, but for my surprise other accounts got banned too. So i made a new account and confirmed my theory: someone has been following me.
I made the account FcK and it got banned, no reason given.
Not to mention that 1 year ban makes no sense.
Mods should think better before making such decisions. I've got depression, relationship issues, insomnia, and other issues. When i finally become part of a community you take it away from me. Is that fair? Playing this game is what helped me to sleep again. When i went to sleep I would be thinking about my friends on the community and the builds i've been learning, the games i've been winning and such. Now its all gone thanks to some mods that don't like me.
Even if there is a reason to ban me, i don't believe that a 1 year ban is fair. Its not fair at all. Guys, have some empathy, think twice. You might be messing with someone else's life.

Re: Unfair Ban (Lots of accounts)

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:03 pm
by Zio
Oh and i should mention that my FcK account got banned and there is no topic on ban requests or processed ban requests.

Re: Unfair Ban (Lots of accounts)

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:05 pm
by Zio
Also i can't access the link provided in my ban thread.

Re: Unfair Ban (Lots of accounts)

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:09 pm
by blazeitup
If you get banned, you are not allowed to play in any account. Are you dumb? That's what banned means. Making new accounts to continue playing is dodging.

Go read the rules which can be found on the wiki page, the try to make a new proper appeal where you don't accuse moderators of stalking you.

Re: Unfair Ban (Lots of accounts)

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:58 pm
by EdgeOfChaos
LOL WHAT
They ban accounts to prevent the player from playing, not the account...
This must be a joke.

Your IP range is going to be banned for dodging so whatever account you try to play on will not be allowed.
You can't access the linked thread because it's a range ban thread with information about your IP provider/etc. You don't want everyone to be able to see it.
If you didn't want to get banned for 1 year then serve out ban time without creating a new account to get around it.

I've got depression, relationship issues, insomnia, and other issues. When i finally become part of a community you take it away from me.

Ban appeals is not the place to get help; please seek therapy/medication.

Re: Unfair Ban (Lots of accounts)

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:43 pm
by FalenGa
May i ask why your first reaction after noticing you are banned, even tho Quetra clearly adviced you to appeal your ban, was to create an account named findme.@europe.battle.net and keep dodging your ban?

From my point of you, you simply thought you could keep doing this so you didn't care enough to appeal. Now you find out you actually can't, so you come and throw a bunch of excuses and accusations, without even reading the rules.

@Zio

Re: Unfair Ban (Lots of accounts)

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:50 pm
by Zio
Like i said, i was trying to prove my point that i was being stalked by the mods that don't even know me and yet they got something against me. Read my first post, I think i've explained.
Whats the point of you guys following me and ban all my accounts even when i don't do anything wrong on them??

Re: Unfair Ban (Lots of accounts)

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:07 pm
by FalenGa
When you're banned on ENT you are banned from all our games on any of your accounts.

Creating a new account and playing while banned is called ban dodging. Ban dodging is treated like map hack, which is automatically a one year ban and an IP range ban.

A good way to continue with your appeal would be for you to head over to our wiki page, take a moment to read our rules, and then copy paste the ones you broke here.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Re: Unfair Ban (Lots of accounts)

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:42 pm
by Sylvanas
Zio wrote:Like i said, i was trying to prove my point that i was being stalked by the mods that don't even know me and yet they got something against me. Read my first post, I think i've explained.
Whats the point of you guys following me and ban all my accounts even when i don't do anything wrong on them??

Congrats on proving your point. You got banned and for some reason they had the crazy idea that you shouldn't just continue playing as if nothing happened. Good luck for the next part.

Re: Unfair Ban (Lots of accounts)

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:42 am
by EdgeOfChaos
Please add my avatar :thonking: emoji so i can go and add it to every silly appeal like this one.
Like i said, i was trying to prove my point that i was being stalked by the mods that don't even know me and yet they got something against me.

The mods don't have any reason to be after you. They just banned you, and they do regular checkups on users who are banned to find dodging. They found you dodging, so they ban your IP range. They do this for all users, and lots of people besides you have been range banned. That's the end of story; I promise no moderator cares at all about you.

If you want to get unbanned before your 1 year is up, you'd better:
1: stop the paranoia ("the mods are all out to get me!!")
2: read up on ENT's rules (go find them) and find out what you did wrong
3: quote the rule you violated to the mods so they know you've seen and understood
4: apologize and promise to stop dodging in the future
5: follow whatever other things they tell you to do

No promises to how long you'll be banned, but It'll probably be shorter than 1 year then.

... or else you can keep thinking you're right and the rest of the world is wrong..

Re: Unfair Ban (Lots of accounts)

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:45 pm
by Zio
Thanks for your answers, it has been really enlightening.
EdgeOfChaos wrote:If you want to get unbanned before your 1 year is up, you'd better:
1: stop the paranoia ("the mods are all out to get me!!")

Like i said, some demons take a ride inside my mind, i've got anxiety, depression and other issues, maybe you could add some paranoia to all that i guess.
EdgeOfChaos wrote:2: read up on ENT's rules (go find them) and find out what you did wrong

I've never heard about such, but now that the mod has talked about wiki and rules i found my way into it
EdgeOfChaos wrote:3: quote the rule you violated to the mods so they know you've seen and understood

General Rules
Do not dodge your bans. Dodging is defined as playing on a different account while being banned on another account, often by a (purposely triggered) change of the IP. Dodging is considered a major offense equal to maphacking.
EdgeOfChaos wrote:4: apologize and promise to stop dodging in the future

I didn't really understand the dodge definition, i really thought bans were tied to accounts rather than to the person. Thats how BNet bans used to work too, didn't think it would be any different on ENT. I now understand the rules and am able to play by them.
EdgeOfChaos wrote:5: follow whatever other things they tell you to do

I'm ready to listen
EdgeOfChaos wrote:... or else you can keep thinking you're right and the rest of the world is wrong..

Well i guess sometimes you're right and the world is wrong, sometimes the world is right and you're wrong, guess thats how it goes.
FalenGa wrote:When you're banned on ENT you are banned from all our games on any of your accounts.

Creating a new account and playing while banned is called ban dodging. Ban dodging is treated like map hack, which is automatically a one year ban and an IP range ban.

A good way to continue with your appeal would be for you to head over to our wiki page, take a moment to read our rules, and then copy paste the ones you broke here.

Let me know if you have any questions.

I followed your instructions by following the EdgeOfChaos words, didn't really understand the ban dodge concept before.
I'd also like to reinforce the point that i really need to be part of this community, it has really helped me with my issues. Also, i believe i've been getting a better behavior every day, i've made a lot of friends that i don't want to lose touch with them because of a ban.

Re: Unfair Ban (Lots of accounts)

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:50 pm
by seto
"Like i said, some demons take a ride inside my mind, i've got anxiety, depression and other issues, maybe you could add some paranoia to all that i guess."

Some time in the shadow realm might do you good then, plenty of space to think, and you can always just duel the demons away, I'd recommend a Light-type monster deck if anything.

"I didn't really understand the dodge definition, i really thought bans were tied to accounts rather than to the person. Thats how BNet bans used to work too, didn't think it would be any different on ENT. I now understand the rules and am able to play by them."

This is some interesting logic that the demons must have embedded in your psyche. If an account that YOU control receives a ban, YOU think it's totally ok to go ahead and create another one to use, circumventing the ban? You claim ignorance to the 'definition' of ban dodging, but the methodology you employed to get around the ban on YOUR account says otherwise.

Re: Unfair Ban (Lots of accounts)

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:01 pm
by Zio
Well, its looks completely reasonable to me that when you ban an account the ban is not against the person per se, its for the account. Why would you like to remove a member from the community? Its a small community we gotta gather as many players as we can.
But that may be just my opinion i guess

Re: Unfair Ban (Lots of accounts)

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:14 pm
by Zio
Today i had a session with my therapist and mentioned the whole ongoing situation regarding the ent community. It was his understanding that i should put some effort to talk to the admins and try to revert the whole situation that i find myself in.
Here i am then, showing myself up to clear things up and to let you guys know my version on the whole event. I'm ready to put all that happened behind and start a fresh beginning, no hard feelings.
If you guys got any question please let me know, yall can feel free to throw your point of view

Re: Unfair Ban (Lots of accounts)

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:31 pm
by FalenGa
A straight unban is not an option on dodging cases.

What i can do, tho, is offer you the following deal :

Do not try to dodge your ban any further, and reappeal in 6 weeks from now. Once you do, i'll recheck everything and proceed with your appeal.

How does that sound?

@Zio