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ban request:

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:26 pm
by jUst_h4ve_fUN
Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12237696
Game Name: [ENT] DotA apem us/ca #39
Your Warcraft III Username: i.need.vis4
Violator's Warcraft III Username: yanouk
Violated Rule(s): ruin mid, admits that he blocked me case i started votekick,teamfight bot he farms top
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): made a few timestamps there
Any further thoughts: he started ruin right from the start.ruined mid, spec was underlevel all game cause of him.the he blocked sniper so the others kill him.

Re: ban request:

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:07 pm
by iambackk
Maybe put all timestamps here ? because this is a little long to read all chatlog to try to found where did you put a timestamp and then go check this game to understand what happened...

Well i watched some moves, first of all, spec never called me and spec wasn't mid, he went bot to ward then at top rune and riki was moving mid at this moment.
After you started a votekick abuse (because nobody called mid and finally they joined closely at the same time mid lane), Riki moved top and you took 2 kills top lane.
then (08:14 / Allied) plstry: !votekick yan
for absolutely no reason,
(08:20 / All) yanouk: wtf ? (he don't understand it)
(08:24 / All) plstry: hes ruining (this is a lie)
(08:26 / All) plstry: kick him

(09:03 / Allied) yanouk: this is for kicking me
(09:05 / All) i.need.vis4: he blocked me now
i think here you was dead anyway, but yes he admited his behavior.

i don't support what he did but how you want a player to focus anything if you start a game by kicking him 3/4 times for no reason even when he moved from mid ?

Actually you guys decide, i can ban him and all players who abused on the vk, or i can ban nobody.

Please watch the replay again if you don't believe what i said.

Re: ban request:

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:19 pm
by alinush_dmx
spec call mid but thats not a problem. after he said he called mid and all the team said go top its still not a problem cause he said he needs first boots.and the fact that he blocked me so that they can kill me(he admited that too), its still not a problem.all i can say WOW!gj moderator.

Re: ban request:

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:11 pm
by Merex
The unspoken 'rule' of DotA is lane assigning yourselves. That is something you, as the DotA community, are to sort and figure out yourselves. If there's a misunderstanding, you are to also find a resolution as a team. This is a team game, after-all.

For this game, the spec in question did in-fact not call mid and was not present in the mid lane but on the sides trying for bounty. This created a confusion in SA and could've well thought spec was going to offlane. That's a misunderstanding, and spec then clarified he was mid to which the SA said after he gets boots, he will leave.

That's an attempt as a resolution, which was immediately met with votekicks and insults. That is not resolving the issue on your guys' part. Furthermore, it encourages the opposite and further reinforces the issue. If you as a team can't figure out lane assignment, this is the consequence.

ENT has never/will never put lane assignment as part of our rule structure. That is something we leave to the community, with the prerequisite that the community will handle it as seasoned/regularly playing DotA players. That being said, I don't call this game ruining and I highly encourage you learn from this situation as the other staff said above, votekick abuse is in our rule structure and could easily be flipped on all participating parties.

I think we'll go with the former on this one, processed.