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MushRoom fail ban :)
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:40 am
by MushRoom
Your Warcraft III username: MushRoom
Realm/Gateway: Europe
Why are you banned: for leaving when my heal could have saved king.
Why you should be unbanned: Because its wrong
we leaked 8 turtles at lvl 20, at that point we had only 2 heals left my own and purples. Purple left the game wich ment that we had now only 1 heal (mine) left. 1 heal wasnt even close to be enough. (Neither would 2 have been) So at that point the game was over and i called GG WP and left. my heal wouldnt have changed anything.
The guy who reported me even said ingame and i quote: This was actually decent hold, But still GG.
i hope ull fix the mistake soon
Best Regards Mush
Re: MushRoom fail ban :)
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:20 pm
by Hutzu
@Mushroom At the point your King has 14hp left, 3 turtles are alive.
4135 hp
6509 hp
6614 hp
@diablo_ @krumme @ztx)fiji @eldryan @beepboopbeep @supersexyyWould like to hear your opinions if the King could have handled that with 1 more heal. I admittingly don't know for sure.
Re: MushRoom fail ban :)
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:06 pm
by Diablo_
Beep is correct, you would probably survive with 1 heal (or at least it was very very close).
Re: MushRoom fail ban :)
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:38 pm
by nabo.
King may have survived and heal "may" have saved the king.
@mushroom It woulda been nice if u didnt give up. (Hello Mush and wb)
@beepboopbeep Doesnt seem like he had the intention to ruin the game by not healing, so verbal warning seems enough. Make your call.
Re: MushRoom fail ban :)
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:47 pm
by Krumme
1 heal most likely wouldn't have made the difference but leaving in a "maybe" situation imo. still should be banable as this is more to the "maybe not" while as other situations will be "maybe would have" and it's a tough call
Re: MushRoom fail ban :)
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:58 pm
by eldryan
I agree with Agreements on this one. getting that first turtle down will take maybe 6-7k hp, and the last 2 turtles will kill you.
edit: ps, 2 turtles near full hp would live, for future consideration. even in this situation, because it's a pub, if 3 ppl were to abuse anti-stuck (still legal to my knowledge in pub) it's possible this king could've been near killing 3 (without other team helping, lose with closer 2vs1 turtlevsking battle).
Re: MushRoom fail ban :)
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:00 pm
by ButtChugTheWine
My opinion is that 2 heals would not have saved this.
Re: MushRoom fail ban :)
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:12 pm
by Hutzu
ButtChugTheWine wrote:My opinion is that 2 heals would not have saved this.
No way. With 2 heals, you can even start focusing the one with highest hp. I wouldn't have tagged ppl if even 2 heals would fail.
Once only 1 turtle is alive, the King takes barely any damage. I am sure the King would survive, if it healed the King to full hp. But only 10k HP is most-likely not enough. I agree with eldryan that probably 6-7k HP left after lowest turtle is down. Then I doubt the King can finish one turtle in time to have 2-3k HP left (I think that is enough for King to kill a turtle).
Re: MushRoom fail ban :)
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:18 pm
by BeepBoopBeep
You both leaked and left without using your heals so i banned you both? Whats the problem? What do you want clarified?
1 heal would of not saved the king.
Re: MushRoom fail ban :)
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:22 pm
by eldryan
It's like in dota how first 2 leavers banned, rest who leave after already 3v5 not banned because game basically ruined already. He's claiming something similar applies in this situation. No reason to stay/call ban-ruining if it's obvious his staying will do nothing and his team will lose.
Although I appreciate that rules are important, I think this is an important distinction...
Re: MushRoom fail ban :)
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:44 pm
by MushRoom
i didnt ask get anything clarified, i told u the situation from my point of view. I wouldnt leave if he didnt, cause i wouldnt be sure that we lost. BUT when we only had my heal i had 0 doubt that we would die. So yea i left. I dont think me going out of the game 20 sec before the rest should matter. But hey just my opinnion