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Shooterball@uswest

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:05 am
by shooterball
Your Warcraft III username: shooterball
Realm/Gateway: west
Why are you banned: failure to vk afk
Why you should be unbanned: i cannot confirm he was ever afk. If he went afk 5 minutes the team can kick. I have had way too many situations where people on my team try to kick someone and they lie about things they are doing. Destroying items, afk, item stealing, selling items and buying branches.

How can i confirm that he is indeed breaking rules if i do not see their fountain?

You can kick someone without all people voting so are you going to submit a ban for every last person who does not vote?

Re: Shooterball@uswest

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:07 am
by shooterball
@hazardous

I never saw him go afk. What if he was afk for 4 minutes at base while moving around so the afk did not show a current afk?

He was 8-3 and i had no way of knowing if he was afk or not. Only one of their team was saying he was afk so there is no way to confirm.

Also i have been banned for voting yes in a similar situation...

Re: Shooterball@uswest

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:10 am
by HazarDous
@shooterball

Please copy paste Votekick rules located on our wiki after reading them

Re: Shooterball@uswest

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:17 am
by shooterball
HazarDous wrote:@shooterball

Please copy paste Votekick rules located on our wiki after reading them


I did not break any rules.

"You are free to refuse to votekick someone when there is lack of evidence/visible rule violation. However, communicate your decision via all chat, too."

(33:56 / All) shooterball: i cannot confirm he was afk griefing

Re: Shooterball@uswest

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:20 am
by shooterball
@HazarDous

Votekick Rules
For flaming/verbal conflicts, use bot command, !ignore <name>, and/or bnet command, /squelch <name> , instead. Squelching will also block whispers.
Do not spam or randomly start !votekicks, do not !votekick to avoid being kicked, and do not !votekick without proper reasons. Votekicks are ban-able even if they are not passed since negative intentions can still be assessed and misusing it can lead others to misuse it. Kicks and bans are enforced based on how severe the rule has been violated. ENT keeps the right to enforce punishments as warning.
Do not abuse !votekick: its only purpose is to kick game ruinners who violate ENT's rules and negatively impact the game for either or both teams in the game.
You are obligated to !votekick any player that has broken any of ENT's rules. If someone or several indicate that a particular player is game ruining, you, as a player in the game, are obligated to question/check about the situation/claim.
If a votekick is initiated to kick a visible game ruiner, all players are obligated to !yes.
It is possible to game ruin by being new. In this case, votekick will only be valid if the new player refuses to learn and cooperate. Just because someone is a newbie or bad does not mean he is intentionally game ruinning.
Maphack can only be confirmed once the replay is reviewed after a game. Therefore, it is invalid to initiate a votekick on someone solely due to suspicions.
When you initiate a !votekick, you should clearly explain "Who" and "How" the violator is game ruining via all chat.
You are free to refuse to votekick someone when there is lack of evidence/visible rule violation. However, communicate your decision via all chat, too.
If you are unsure that someone on the opposite team is game ruinning, ask the other team for clarification via all chat.
You are responsible for your own vote. Voting for something means you agree with it. You are accountable for what happens with your vote.

The Enterprise Gaming Administration keeps the right to enforce punishments on a case-by-case basis in order to preserve a healthy gaming environment.

Re: Shooterball@uswest

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:38 am
by HazarDous
Not on my comp anymore, but iirc from the brq, you were clearly told/explained that the user was afk.

Considering 3/4 people from the other team voted to kick + the fact that you don't see him for 5 minutes should indicate that the player is indeed afk and breaking the rules.

Anything wrong with that reasoning or am I missing anything?

Re: Shooterball@uswest

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:45 am
by shooterball
@hazardous

No i understand, please can you unban me?

Re: Shooterball@uswest

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:54 am
by HazarDous
As I said, I'm on my phone right now, can't unban you.

You can ask another mod to unban you tho.

I do believe -or atleast hope- you understand how VK rules work and will do best you can next time a situation like that arises.

Re: Shooterball@uswest

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:02 pm
by HazarDous
@shooterball

Unbanned