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thorns is an ability thats very underwhelming on round 7, even if you go FULL king, u will end up healing twice to a moderate leak (where immo/stomp would cause u not to heal even once vs the same amount of leak) but it is really op late game (vs ballistas/garg/demons, example: if u have 1 heal u can easily survive 12 by having to hit each ballista once only)

I suggest perhaps the baseline damage upon activation be increased a little bit and the incremental be reduced, that way its less op late game, and a little stronger early for round 7.

i never thought to myself i'd be saying "thank god we got wave" when i dont get thorns on a yolo game :/

any thoughts?

Now please create a "Wave underwhelming on round 7?" thread :*

Thorns don't cut it on 7 true, but are much much stronger afterwards

To be honest, I think it needs some rework. It starts really bad a game with -3 heals on 7 even though you did full king vs a very basic send. There are always ways to save heals with other skills, but without decent holder (which can happen), you are basically doomed to burn most of your heals.

I don't know. Every ability has it's up and down vs some levels. One could argue shockwave sucks at 7 as well

I dont see the problem with Thorns being weak at lvl7, the same could be said for wave. If you want to avoid losing heals, then u gotta get a holder. Same way with wave. It is however, very strong against lvl8. Stronger than wave

I havnt seen it too much after lvl10 so cant comment on that

better buff immo, it suxx on wave 8 and u have to heal

milfhunter96 wrote:better buff immo, it suxx on wave 8 and u have to heal

idk which planet you live on, but it is super effective on 8. Also on lvl 10, you can just up HP on your king and be totally fine to hold.

It's the best spell against 8, prolly also 10 (not sure versus stomp), 12, 16, 20, super strong on every 20+ wave, very effective on any 10+ wave unless you leak over 50... There's gotta be a weakness of some sort.

several friends and I can't stand this stupid thorns sh!t. You already ruined the game in so many ways but this takes the cake. No more ltd or support from us until this is removed.

HodoR_ wrote:

milfhunter96 wrote:better buff immo, it suxx on wave 8 and u have to heal

idk which planet you live on, but it is super effective on 8. Also on lvl 10, you can just up HP on your king and be totally fine to hold.

immo is super effective on 8 and 10? About what game are we talking?

Sammy wrote:You already ruined the game in so many ways but this takes the cake.

How? LTD was never as balanced as it is now, or did you enjoy clog games in 3.41 version more?

Don't throw such words around you without having anything to back them up, please. Broud did a huge job for the LTD community, all for free.

reduced the % damage a bit and increased the fixed amount.

milfhunter96 wrote:

HodoR_ wrote:

milfhunter96 wrote:better buff immo, it suxx on wave 8 and u have to heal

idk which planet you live on, but it is super effective on 8. Also on lvl 10, you can just up HP on your king and be totally fine to hold.

immo is super effective on 8 and 10? About what game are we talking?

Sorry I read immo as *imo* and thought you were talking about thorns.

the thorns fix is pretty brilliant actually. it is a little stronger on 7 and a little weaker on 10+ thanks broud3r.
I say that because before the fix u could leak 130 on round 12 and still survive easily with an extra heal or something, when a 130 leak is supposed to end u regardless of spell.