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Oracle on 31 buffs other team member's units on 31 and if a team doesnt find med man theyre doomed to lose regardless of tier 6

I think it's fine as it is now.
31+ games are very rare and it's almost the only scenario where it's good.

this is still bugged like overseer aura last patch, i would like if oracles will not rebuff any other units than pre 31. there is a huge advantage for one of teams with rebuffing for half of units in the middle, and it also huge random with placement where oracles teleport to middle and buff strong units or not.

+1

Kiwi wrote:I think it's fine as it is now.
31+ games are very rare and it's almost the only scenario where it's good.

in LTL* you know theres other ltd games around too

HodoR_ wrote:

Kiwi wrote:I think it's fine as it is now.
31+ games are very rare and it's almost the only scenario where it's good.

in LTL* you know theres other ltd games around too

Talking about any LTD game. Mega, 1200+, LIHL, LTL, 1v1 and 2v2. 31+ games are very very very rare.

@ Kiwi just because its rare doesnt mean we should leave a broken mechanic, although i agree with you that 31 games are uncommon

example: enemy fails a 27 send, then u send 31 with 10k lumber each, vs a 2-3k lumber send from enemy team

enemy team ends up outlasting you because all their towers had 30% damage reduction just because luckily 1 of them had 3-4 oracles.

Thats just unfair. Not talking about the frequency of a 31 game, but when it does happen, its not balanced if 1 team has re-rolled oracles and 1 hasnt.

Broken? It is meant to be like this and was even fixed not long ago.

Isn't 31 about outrolling the enemy in each case ?
Ahead are OP down there too. Some units are worthless while others are super strong.

I don't think Oracle is broken. You can say the same for any aura down there then.

It definitely is broken - there is no reason to recast it's ability for 50+ fighters instead of usual 6 on one specific level. Might as well do it fOr any level in mid so it's actually usable midgame. Not like it matters much since lvl 31 without oracle happens in like 1 out of a1000 games...
Also Kiwi not sure what do you mean by fixed? The only oracle fix was it not being able to cast it's ability...

Wrong. 31+ games in 1v1 happens all the time. In my experience oracles makes a HUGE difference 31+

The only broken thing in 31+ games is the blood orc splits. whatever units you have, it's a gamble everytime. I've won games when I had almost 2k less value than my opponent and the opposite, because of a split caused by the BO . This, in my opinion should be fixed because it does not in any way determine who had the best build.

Recently they slowed down the movement speed of the BO but it actually makes it worse, since units don't have time to go back down and get dragged to the next wave coming.

HodoR_ wrote:

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Kiwi wrote:

HodoR_ wrote:in LTL* you know theres other ltd games around too

Talking about any LTD game. Mega, 1200+, LIHL, LTL, 1v1 and 2v2. 31+ games are very very very rare.

Wrong. 31+ games in 1v1 happens all the time. In my experience oracles makes a HUGE difference 31+

I've never reached level 31 in 1v1, and I used to be quite active there. I guess your play-style can be optimized Or maybe it has something to do with this:

I agree, usualy I try to spot the weakness of my opponent and try a send early on (11-14). If it doesn't work, I usualy go full king and push income like crazy and try to reach something like 7/10 by second arena. A fully upped king can hold 20 easy with sends.

I think the trickiest part is deciding when to send after 20.

@kiwi
EDIT : if you get a decent opponent and pr mode it usualy goes 31+. Also I'm not quite sure what you're trying to achieve here? This guy is reporting a bug there's no reason to brush it under the carpet.

Jabba41 wrote:Isn't 31 about outrolling the enemy in each case ?
Ahead are OP down there too. Some units are worthless while others are super strong.

I don't think Oracle is broken. You can say the same for any aura down there then.

the same cant be said to other auras because they are living up to their assigned task.
troll champion gives attack+move speed to all units, so it does on 31
messiah gives mana to all mana-using towers, so it does on 31
oracle buffs the 6 adjacently built towers to it, but it does differently on 31 by buffing all units that luckily spawned next to it?

outrolling is one thing, but even if you are heavily outrolled and outvalued, oracle can still make u win a game that you are actually supposed to lose!

if you outplayed your enemy team hard and you are 3-4k value on average ahead of them, you can still EASILY lose if they have oracle. just isnt fair to scale