Question/Announcement

[BurritoCarcass]

Can I be a green forum moderator for no reason too? Well, I like the color, I suppose that is reason enough? Hmm... just let me know when I start Maybe @art)y can tell me how he pulled it off.

The top half of this is a joke, but hopefully bringing awareness to the people that deserve it, a.k.a. the people I have tagged below.
@yondaime @karasu. @edgeofchaos

Continually the higher ups of this forum neglect to recognize the value of certain moderators and go around promoting people for reasons that are not only random, but seldom public. The promoting of bit and art)y as green mods baffled me and still does. Do you reward underachievement? If so, when will @timmythetauren be red? Or @hunter91? Hmm, that list of useless mods can go on and on and "prune day" should have happened a while ago.

Well, I hope you haven't taken this post as an attack, but if you did, I can see why. You know me after all, I like causing a scene. But I also like standing up for what makes sense and is somewhat correct. The fact that so many people of this "staff" skate under the radar disgusts me, it is truly pathetic.

On another note, I'm well aware of the commitment that should be applied to a position like this, or should be anyway. I'm starting my senior year of college and juggling many other clubs and groups that have actual leadership positions that require an actual adherence to responsibility. Having said that, you can call this my second form of resignation. I thought with a large percentage of the "special" admins gone, the environment here would have changed... I was wrong, it went from non-native joke to a convention of laziness and nonsensical promotions and/or decisions.

Anyway, if @agreements can get away with admin abuse and @art)y can be promoted for fun, why should the rest of the staff make sense or help maintain the forum? The million dollar question. It was nice working with you @yondaime @edgeofchaos @karasu. but all good things must come to an end. I will still visit teamspeak and whatnot, but this forum needs a great deal of new management and staff.

Good luck guys,
Burrito

[supersexyy]

Karasu is a forum mod??
Arty is well suited to the position of forum mod. Forum mods have different duties to a game moderator. A good game moderator doesn't necessarily = good forum mod.

[aRt)Y]

Karasu is a forum mod??

Plus, to be honest, I haven't even asked for it but I wont deny having it will be useful for several reasons.

If you haven't noticed it, I am doing a lot of requests and appeals as well but only because I don't show off with it, it wouldn't mean I am lazy/less productive.

You are also missing - like many others as well - that my main work is behind the scenes. I am doing a lot for the community, especially ID, to provide a good gaming atmosphere. This means banning dodgers and having the lobby lively moderated - who else does that? Oh, right, no one except for marked or bit.

Actually, I don't need to defend myself here - it's fine that you are 'standing up' for justice or whatever you call it in this case - but I am not sure if a complaint versus another staff member is the correct way to handle with it.

Anyway, a job of a forum mod is to moderate the forum. Do you think I am not suited for it?
I do remove all the spam and warn the users concerning certain things. I also discussed and asked the greens to do something versus certain members due to their spamming. When have you taken care of the forum?

Something you might as well not have noticed, I do indeed have 'achievements'. I suggested many things - on public and staff level - to improve the administrative work. I am not sure what you've done the past weeks except being annoyed by two people above you - in your case agree and bit.

The reason why people apply for mods isn't necessarily to become a red but to help and improve the community.
And people get it who deserve it - whether it's yondy, edge or me.

Your reason to quit - once again - is beyond my apprehension.

To end this: You might know that posting a complaint needs some reasons, everything I can read here is:
• seems to be random promotion without actually trying to find arguments for it
• qq, others deserve it more, see above
• making even fun others (timmy, hunter), regardless publicly throwing shit at agree, bit and me.

Do you actually know what respect, honor and teamwork are? There could have been thousand of ways to deal with it but surprisingly you chose the big stage, well done.

I was removed from the staff? Please, ask Uakf.b, I resigned my position due to the fact that 90% of the staff and people that comment on these posts are idiots (not to mention dumb as dirt). It is impossible to deal with the illiterate and ESL mods on these forums and these truths have greatly ruined the Ent experience.

Only 3 months ago you insulted our staff team. Now you want to be a part of it again?

Seems legit.

[BurritoCarcass]

This is less of an insult and more of a request/attention grabber. Supersexy is blue again? Lol. And the pointing out of people was so that our reds and maybe see what they try to avoid, which is useless staff (90% of the blues). And yes, I enjoy the stage because things should be public. I posted here for two main reasons: 1 so everyone can see it, considering the fact that the staff does effect everyone. And 2 because maybe being put on the spot and being called out will help the mods step up their game.

As for my resigning, I'm too busy. And funny enough, even with over 10 hours of commitment a day, I still do more than half of the staff. Not to mention my work with EDL. This was not a cry for personal gain, but more for the benefit of the community. See it how you want.

[karasu.]

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[aRt)Y]

That's interesting. You started the topic for the sake of yondy and edge but you ended up to complain how hard your life is.

The selection of mods isn't job of the public but of the reds, thus it has nothing to do with the public. You are trying to gain an advantage of it which I don't really get, yet - except your stage.

By the way, if you haven't noticed it, mocking about other staff members is indeed an insult.

Anyway, that's pretty much all I've to say to this - a discussion about unpleasant circumstances looks differently.

[supersexyy]

Are you mocking... all of the staff?

[uakf.b]

If you want to nominate someone for green admin you can PM red admins and explain why you think so. You've supported none of your arguments so far anyway; actually it's not even clear what you're arguing for/against.

[BurritoCarcass]

No, I'm not mocking all of the staff, just half, maybe a little more. Too many people here do not do anything, and then even more do not do enough, it just seems so easy to gain moderator status. Not to mention it is even easier to maintain it. Realistically, if you even log onto the site or comment once or twice a week randomly, you are exempt from prune day.

@karasu. why the ?

Argument: To me, it looks like I am arguing that promotions are aimless and meritless and that people that actually do something deserve them.

Defense: bit and art)y barely, if at all, deserve to be forum moderators. they do little forum work and bit is a green cuz he afks in chat? And the fact that agreements hasnt been punish remotely for his many counts of abuse really strikes me. Apparently he was going to be spoken with, ive seen no evidence of this.

[aRt)Y]

We could remove everyone who doesn't do whatever amount of ban requests, like uakf.b, but what would that accomplish? Players volunteer to be moderator _so that_ they can process ban requests and do other things; unless you abuse your powers, being a moderator doesn't have any advantage. Removing volunteer's ability to volunteer simply because they don't volunteer enough doesn't make sense.

So only effect I can see is less ban requests being processed, which seems to be opposite from your intended goal.

Edit:

if you want the special privileges that come with being a game moderator then you need to be active and do ban requests.

Maybe a special burden, but definitely not a special privilege.

[uakf.b]

You still haven't said anything useful. Just made statements without supporting any.

The top half of this is a joke, but hopefully bringing awareness to the people that deserve it, a.k.a. the people I have tagged below.. Continually the higher ups of this forum neglect to recognize the value of certain moderators and go around promoting people for reasons that are not only random, but seldom public.

This is your opinion. You haven't said anything to support it.

The promoting of bit and art)y as green mods baffled me and still does. Do you reward underachievement?

Both are active on the forum. Is that underachievement?

Well, I hope you haven't taken this post as an attack, but if you did, I can see why. You know me after all, I like causing a scene. But I also like standing up for what makes sense and is somewhat correct. The fact that so many people of this "staff" skate under the radar disgusts me, it is truly pathetic.

Seems more like a bunch of random unsupported statements.

On another note, I'm well aware of the commitment that should be applied to a position like this, or should be anyway. I'm starting my senior year of college and juggling many other clubs and groups that have actual leadership positions that require an actual adherence to responsibility. Having said that, you can call this my second form of resignation. I thought with a large percentage of the "special" admins gone, the environment here would have changed... I was wrong, it went from non-native joke to a convention of laziness and nonsensical promotions and/or decisions.

Not sure what you're getting at here.

if agreements can get away with admin abuse

He didn't abuse admin? If you mean the stats, he had other account with those stats, and anyway that's resolved already so why are you bringing it up again?

art)y can be promoted for fun

Ok? Was he too active for your liking?

why should the rest of the staff make sense or help maintain the forum

Again you say something without actually... saying anything.

I will still visit teamspeak and whatnot, but this forum needs a great deal of new management and staff.

And again.

This is less of an insult and more of a request/attention grabber.

Do you really think saying a bunch of things without arguing for any of them will accomplish anything?

Supersexy is blue again? Lol.

Why do you think that's funny?

And the pointing out of people was so that our reds and maybe see what they try to avoid, which is useless staff (90% of the blues).

Too bad all you did was say a few names. That's useless.

And 2 because maybe being put on the spot and being called out will help the mods step up their game.

You didn't call anyone out, you just said that they shouldn't have been promoted. Maybe you should tell them why?

As for my resigning, I'm too busy. And funny enough, even with over 10 hours of commitment a day, I still do more than half of the staff. Not to mention my work with EDL. This was not a cry for personal gain, but more for the benefit of the community. See it how you want.

So... still you haven't made a point...

Argument: To me, it looks like I am arguing that promotions are aimless and meritless and that people that actually do something deserve them.

The only thing that's aimless here is your posts.

bit and art)y barely, if at all, deserve to be forum moderators. they do little forum work and bit is a green cuz he afks in chat?

Wow, you finally said something! Although it's a bit confusing, because art)y is one of the most active on the forum. Have you even looked at search.php?author_id=5978&sr=posts ??? As for bit, he does 50% of forum moderation work like deleting spam posts, moving posts to where they belong, etc. And is there something wrong with AFK'ing in chat?

And the fact that agreements hasnt been punish remotely for his many counts of abuse really strikes me.

Still don't know what abuse you're talking about.

Apparently he was going to be spoken with, ive seen no evidence of this.

About what? You really need evidence of speaking to him?

[matdas]

ummm not to mention that bit is from a completely different country than you....When its 2pm for me, its the wee hours of the am for him....So what if he leaves his browser open when he sleeps?

Arty does more work than you do. Bit and arty moderate the forums, deletes spam, etc.

Lets go with my case, do i deserve to be promoted for giving my advice to people who need it? Should i get promoted for giving advice to yond and karasu? Should bit get promoted for helping me in Legion TD two days ago?

Instead of posting this, maybe you should join chat and introduce yourself to everyone who actively uses it? For example, me, bit, yond, arty, uakf.b, karasu., agreements, cyberpunk. The only times i've seen you in there you were afk. And if you were in there, you timed out shortly later. Scrolling up to see if you typed something, which is non-existent.

Now we can go back and forth on everything that was done/said, but i think uafk.b has handled that quite nicely.

[IAmLegion]

And the fact that agreements hasnt been punish remotely for his many counts of abuse really strikes me.

Still don't know what abuse you're talking about.

Agreements banned Fangorn pre-emptively without any evidence to support his theory that Fangorn was maphacking. Fangorn is also a player that Agreements has had a quarrel with for a longer period of time. Not to say the feeling isn't mutual, however, Agreements banned Fangorn for "maphacking" when he clearly had delay in a game. Then refused to remove the ban when evidence was posted that he did in fact not hack. Other moderators had to be involved to solve the problem, all the while agreements was discarding the opinion of players through this forum because they were a) Not admins or b) weren't experienced enough according to their stats or c) friends of the player in question.

He have yet to apologize to Fangorn, Qtrinity, myself or any of the others involved. He have yet to apologize to the entire forum for his louzy behaviour. Personally, I think he think of himself as above the current ENT rules, and the lack of punishment after his behaviour only further enables him to keep up being a piece of shit.

I know Fangorn PMed you with this matter without getting any response. Which is why I find it curious as to why you would be "oblivious" in regards to this particular problem.

[aRt)Y]

@IAmLegion Please, don't try to start another qt-fang-agree thread.
This is mainly about burrito's show now.

Waiting for some evidence/arguments with which uakf can actually work or this will be moved.

[TimmyTheTauren]

This is a rage topic, there isn't evidence, it's just a wall a spam. I don't understand why everything takes so long to be locked and moved.