Your Warcraft III username:haaaaaaaalp
Violator's Warcraft III username:agreements
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Can't tell if it the actual admin or someone stealing his tag.
Anyway at around 12 minutes in, our team pushed into the other team's base and I started to kill their tier4/throne (abeit slowly becuase I had 0 dps). My team sat at their fountain preventing them from leaving and defending and for some reason, agreements started banning them for "fountain farming." Keep in mind that there was no sign that the game was over or that the other team wanted to forfeit. Instead, the other team kept trying to get out to kill me in order to defend their base. Note that once my allies at the fountain died, the other team rushed me and killed me stopping me from ending. Then, they defended for 5 minutes as I tried to end before the throne finally died
Admin impersonation/abmin abuse
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Re: Admin impersonation/abmin abuse
All i can say is lucky you didnt get a longer ban !tban is 4 hours , Usually to go cool off and think about what you have done. He warned you and you kept going.
He is not impersonating and admin because he is one, Otherwise HE wouldnt be able to ban you.
Im going to say no ban for agreements as he warned you and you kept going (you can see it in your k/d for the game).
Another admin can look at this if they dont agree with me
So fountain camping from 12 minutes till 29minutes (17minutes of fountain camping), Over 3 minutes is bannable.
He is not impersonating and admin because he is one, Otherwise HE wouldnt be able to ban you.
Im going to say no ban for agreements as he warned you and you kept going (you can see it in your k/d for the game).
Another admin can look at this if they dont agree with me
The game was 29:04minutes long.haaaaaaaalp wrote:Anyway at around 12 minutes in, our team pushed into the other team's base and I started to kill their tier4/throne (abeit slowly becuase I had 0 dps). My team sat at their fountain preventing them from leaving and defending and for some reason, agreements started banning them for "fountain farming."
So fountain camping from 12 minutes till 29minutes (17minutes of fountain camping), Over 3 minutes is bannable.

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Re: Admin impersonation/abmin abuse
Actually from 11:00 to 27.20 But details.
Agreements is wrong on this side; He should have report first and then Proceed to Ban.
Anyway agreement has a point. He warned you and you keep going on. You deserved it in part.
15 minutes of fountain camping is a ban Stomp. Over 3 Minutes is 100% bannable.
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Agreements is wrong on this side; He should have report first and then Proceed to Ban.
Anyway agreement has a point. He warned you and you keep going on. You deserved it in part.
15 minutes of fountain camping is a ban Stomp. Over 3 Minutes is 100% bannable.
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Reposting admin abuse
Going to repost this admin abuse: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=3885. because it is clear that the admin did not look at the replay at all.
First of all, here is the response:
Now this NZ.death and i'm pretty sure the admin who confirmed his statements did not watch the replay either (the second post was only 11 minutes after nz.death's post) clearly did not watch the replay and just looked at my k/d from the game and assumed I fountainfarmed. First of all, despite my kd, I was never banned in this game as nz.death assumed without watching the replay. Second of all, nz.death assumed for whatever reason that there was 17 minutes of fountainfarming when the game only lasted around 6 minutes after our team went anywhere near the fountain (I estimated the 12 minutes and there is close to 7 minutes of downtime before the clock starts at 0 in an lod game).
Now can an admin who actually watched the game please look into this? When my team pushed into our base, pink started raging and told my team to get away from the fountain when his team was clearly trying to get out of the fountain and stop me from ending the game. He banned my allies within a minute of them guarding the fountain area despite the fountain farming benchmark being at "over 3 minutes" according to nz.death. In fact, the only reason the game lasted 7 minutes after my allies were banned was because their team got together and killed my team to stop us from killing the throne.
First of all, here is the response:
All i can say is lucky you didnt get a longer ban !tban is 4 hours , Usually to go cool off and think about what you have done. He warned you and you kept going.
He is not impersonating and admin because he is one, Otherwise HE wouldnt be able to ban you.
Im going to say no ban for agreements as he warned you and you kept going (you can see it in your k/d for the game).
Another admin can look at this if they dont agree with me
The game was 29:04minutes long.
So fountain camping from 12 minutes till 29minutes (17minutes of fountain camping), Over 3 minutes is bannable.
Now this NZ.death and i'm pretty sure the admin who confirmed his statements did not watch the replay either (the second post was only 11 minutes after nz.death's post) clearly did not watch the replay and just looked at my k/d from the game and assumed I fountainfarmed. First of all, despite my kd, I was never banned in this game as nz.death assumed without watching the replay. Second of all, nz.death assumed for whatever reason that there was 17 minutes of fountainfarming when the game only lasted around 6 minutes after our team went anywhere near the fountain (I estimated the 12 minutes and there is close to 7 minutes of downtime before the clock starts at 0 in an lod game).
Now can an admin who actually watched the game please look into this? When my team pushed into our base, pink started raging and told my team to get away from the fountain when his team was clearly trying to get out of the fountain and stop me from ending the game. He banned my allies within a minute of them guarding the fountain area despite the fountain farming benchmark being at "over 3 minutes" according to nz.death. In fact, the only reason the game lasted 7 minutes after my allies were banned was because their team got together and killed my team to stop us from killing the throne.
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Re: Reposting admin abuse
I actually watched it and you (hhaaalllp)were pushing the entire time. Not only did you take out the structures around the fountain but you straight up hit the base towers tanking it with your almost nil attack dmg (seeing as most of your spells were nukes). Not only did agreements pre-emptively ban them before a "non-existent 3-min window" but during this time, The enemy team was clearly playing defense and there were many kills on the scourge side because of the heroes leaving the fountain to actually fight. Not only did they fight but many times they chased/killed you guys. When there were zero towers left and you were still hitting the throne Naix even berzerker calls you away from finishing and drew the creeps to the fountain. Haaaalp even types -wff and watching his view of the game he checked for forfeits and clearly it was not unanimous in any manner. If your teammate is pushing and even BDing to finish and enemy heroes come out to defend and attack and in some instances kill, I would hardly call that fountain farming. In physical sports whether it be football or basketball, Their team just set a "pick" and created a defensive wall. Towers and structures were hit nonstop in that period and there was clearly physical dmg and intention to get through that wall. I would use a stopwatch to time the actual window that they were "fountain-farming" because I would say scourge clearly continued to defend and had no intention of forfeiting. This is just an unbiased opinion, and indisputable fact that despite the outcome of the game which would probably have been frustrating on the scourge side, the ban was wrong. I urge the admins to watch the game again and in the view of Blue's obsidian character. We are clearly watching two different games. Hope you guys find a solution to this. Thanks.
Re: Reposting admin abuse
I never said i watch the replay, I went on what you said and what the chat log told me.
Like you saying this
So at 12minutes you team went to the fountain ???? Correct?
Game ended at 29:04minutes
Does give the other team a chance when you hover over there fountain and prevent them coming out (killing them), Why didnt your whole team just try and end it ?
Like you saying this
haaaaaaaalp wrote:Anyway at around 12 minutes in, our team pushed into the other team's base and I started to kill their tier4/throne (abeit slowly becuase I had 0 dps). My team sat at their fountain preventing them from leaving and defending
So at 12minutes you team went to the fountain ???? Correct?
Game ended at 29:04minutes
Does give the other team a chance when you hover over there fountain and prevent them coming out (killing them), Why didnt your whole team just try and end it ?

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Re: Reposting admin abuse
I thought it was clear that when I said 12 minutes in, it meant when the game clock was at 12 minutes. It is pretty much impossible to start fountain farming 12 minutes replaytime into an lod game (that would be about 5 minutes after creeps spawn) so I didn't think there was a need to clarify. Also, even then, I clearly stated that the other team killed my team and stopped us from ending after the 12 minute mark so there was absolutely no reason for you to even assume that we were fountain farming from 12 minutes until the end of the game.
Also, our team did try to end it. We knew that they had the advantage in a fight so close to their fountain so my team attempted to keep the other team in their fountain while I pushed. Unfortunately, the other team killed my team (but not before agreements decided to ban 2 of my teammates) and stopped us from ending which caused the game to go well past the 12 minute mark.
Also, our team did try to end it. We knew that they had the advantage in a fight so close to their fountain so my team attempted to keep the other team in their fountain while I pushed. Unfortunately, the other team killed my team (but not before agreements decided to ban 2 of my teammates) and stopped us from ending which caused the game to go well past the 12 minute mark.
Re: Reposting admin abuse
As i said i havent watched the replay yet, But i will. The best place to post this is under complaint's though. As you werent banned. And they players that were banned should go to ban appeal's.
Sorry if i sounded like a dick before.
Sorry if i sounded like a dick before.

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