TheLordGR@Europe

[aRt)Y]

Meh, we've heard many accusations now. While it doesn't necessarily matter for ENT, what's your comment on this, LordGR?

Well, for the third time now, I am referring to the accusations of the members.

Please, finally comment on that or I will deny the application as we dont get forward.

[TheLordGr]

http://www.dota-void.com/player.php?playername=TheLord&realm=e

@agreements looks like he was caught hacking.

The timeline is as follows

Applied for staff in Void=> got caught hacking in Dota-void=> denied it=> dodged ban => caught maphacking again => dodged ban => caught maphacking again + dodged ban => got ranged ban from Void => moved to entgaming => got caught maphacking again on ENTgaming * note that he denied it once again that he doesn't hack and only did it on Dota-void, but DRM showed that there was a legit fogclick=> banned a year from ENT => changed IP and applied for staff on Void again under the Alias "theLord" after 800 or so games

Thats a lie. I only maphacked under the name Beyondkiller 2 years ago. I never maphacked with my other accounts. I am not the same person like 2 years ago. I wanted to make a new start,so i started playing on ENT like 3-4 months ago. I made new friends, and i met some Greeks and they putted me in their clan. Now im the chieftain of that clan, because they trust me. As ShadowZz said, we have all done things in the past we are not proud of and we have all tried to move on from anything that we did wrong. I moved on from my past and u should judge me like i am now.
@Art)y there are a lot of accusations of members but i can change that. You can trust me and you will not regret it. I want to leave my past back and i want to move on. Im really sorry that i maphacked on ENT 2 years ago, but i have changed. It was fool from me, i know. I am not the same person like 2 years ago. We all deserve a second chance in life. I hope that i answered to ur question,if not make it more detailed.

[PharoaheMonch]

Like I said before, your chance should be that you should be given a 2nd opportunity to play, but giving a position of power given your history is absolutely mind boggling.

Secondly I don't lie. You do. You may not like what I am exposing, but regardless it is the truth. You denied it over 100 times that you weren't beyondkiller when I had solid proof that you were the same player, calling me a liar saying I don't do my job well, questioning my integrity. It's insulting to my intelligence. You confessing it after you got backed up into a corner with nowhere to run is so not the same thing as coming clean from the get-go. Getting caught and getting a confession is NOT the same thing as turning yourself in from the start. I didn't ask about your current affiliation with your new clan and I really couldn't care less. If you want something recent to judge you by: the simple fact that you got your brother banned 2 months ago May14th, 2015 because you couldn't contain keeping your dishonest self from playing on Void again after given fair warning to you and a fair chance for your brother to continue playing.
http://oi58.tinypic.com/239pjt.jpg
Recognize this?
The player Saw in the picture recognized you from the start and you straight up told him that you are playing on your brother's whitelisted account.
http://www.dota-void.com/game.php?gameid=635748

Bottom line is that your words hold very little weight and I'm doing my best here to let these nice people of ENTgaming know what a gamble they may be taking. Why risk it at all?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX5pHK1ey4k

[TheLordGr]

Like I said before, your chance should be that you should be given a 2nd opportunity to play, but giving a position of power given your history is absolutely mind boggling.

Secondly I don't lie. You do. You may not like what I am exposing, but regardless it is the truth. You denied it over 100 times that you weren't beyondkiller when I had solid proof that you were the same player, calling me a liar saying I don't do my job well, questioning my integrity. It's insulting to my intelligence. You confessing it after you got backed up into a corner with nowhere to run is so not the same thing as coming clean from the get-go. Getting caught and getting a confession is NOT the same thing as turning yourself in from the start. I didn't ask about your current affiliation with your new clan and I really couldn't care less. If you want something recent to judge you by: the simple fact that you got your brother banned 2 months ago May14th, 2015 because you couldn't contain keeping your dishonest self from playing on Void again after given fair warning to you and a fair chance for your brother to continue playing.
http://oi58.tinypic.com/239pjt.jpg
Recognize this?
The player Saw in the picture recognized you from the start and you straight up told him that you are playing on your brother's whitelisted account.
http://www.dota-void.com/game.php?gameid=635748

Bottom line is that your words hold very little weight and I'm doing my best here to let these nice people of ENTgaming know what a gamble they may be taking. Why risk it at all?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX5pHK1ey4k

My brother said that. He called me when game started to play in his place because "he gtg". anyways my brother quitted playing dota, and its not my fault that he got banned. Anyways enough spam from you. Go back to your void. Never talk to me again. Bye

[PharoaheMonch]

@beyondkiller
Sorry to disappoint you but I'm here to stay as a long time member of Clan High since 2012 and plan on supporting both bots in any way I can to maintain integrity of what's left of the dota 1 community.

It's not spam, it's truth. If it's taking a long time to explain, it's because you have volumes of infractions accumulated over the years. Again that's on you, not me. I haven't been banned once for anything on ENTgaming or Void as a player, as banstaff, or as an Admin. I'm well known to be very reasonable and tell it like it is.

You also lied to me when I asked where "thelord" played before Dota-Void and you said that you were playing offline with a friend getting new maps from a flashdrive due to lack of internet service. 1) Awful story that makes no sense in a panic setting 2) Another banstaff member told me that your tale was just a lie in order to hide the truth from me so you could save face and I''ve already messaged Agreements the details.

You had ample opportunities to come clean and you didn't. You weren't well liked in Void and it's quite surprising how long you've been able to keep a straight face in front of these nice people without tilting and still try to discredit me even though I've seen past your lies from day 1. Other players that joined you in games were very disappointed that "thelord' is just a sham. You will forever be labeled as BeyondKiller. And yes, It IS your fault that your brother got banned. I don't see why you didn't say that then to defend your brother when clearly you were speechless that you had messed up again and now making up this lame excuse about your brother having "gtg". The picture I attached clearly shows that you joined the game in the pre-game lobby. Another lie once again.

ShadowZz

All I am saying is that if he has moved on from his past then we should judge him on who he is now, not who he was. He's showed nothing but promise and has openly admitted to his wrong doings. He still has things to learn but plenty of moderators, if not all moderators have joined staff having points to improve on.

Yeah I agree with you to an extent. Maybe if it was someone that was raging, flaming but like I said before MH on two different servers, ban-dodging are on another level. Why is this concept so hard to grasp? Just answer me this: Have there been other moderators on the current staff or past staff that has a dossier like his? 4 months of some positive activity should not negate years of infractions is all i'm saying. Were previous staffers that may have been caught maphacking given another chance as well? This logic just seems so foreign to me.

[Larz]

The past is what makes us who we are.....we either grow and learn from it or we regress and continue actions that got us no where what you have to figure out is where lordgr is on this process. I have nothing to gain here but I could lose the ability to be a mod for making bad choices, so here it goes....some of the best loss prevention specialist were previous professional thieves. Who better to help detect hackers than a previous hacker. What's the worst that could happen? Most of the mods get along with him .....He puts in effort to learn. Sometimes if you want something bad enough you're willing to change to get it. If he abuses then you can get rid of him . I thought about this all day and even if it ruins my application I have to back him. Good luck Lord. I know agreements and arty and the rest of the admins will do what's right for enterprise.

[PharoaheMonch]

Let's stay on topic here.
Is there anything in regard to the present that you can come up with. I hate talking about the past.

I don't mean any disrespect to you by this comment but I'm pretty sure any resume for any position since the beginning of time requires past history.

Since larz882003 wants to get philosophical,
You don't ask an ex pill addict to run the pharmacy. You don't ask an ex child molester to run the daycare. You don't give vegeta the dragonballs. Wishful thinking is apparently all it takes is willingness to learn the tricks of the trade (FCD+DRM) to convince some of you. I know those examples may be extreme but you are literally enabling/supporting a well documented rule breaker. Again, allowing him to play on your server is one thing but why is it that 1) 2 years is apparently " a long time ago" 2) the guy that maphacked and ban dodged seriously a viable candidate? It seems like you guys have a well oiled machine of staff/admins here. I'm honestly shocked to say the least on how naive everyone is and convinced on a 4 month old shape-shifting new member.

The past is what makes us who we are

I have a quote for you. “I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating” - Sophocles, a Non-maphacking Greek.

Thats a lie. I only maphacked under the name Beyondkiller 2 years ago. I never maphacked with my other accounts. I am not the same person like 2 years ago. I wanted to make a new start,so i started playing on ENT like 3-4 months ago.

It's all documented, junior. I've given all the info to Agreements. You're the liar.

[Haunt]

...I'm honestly shocked to say the least on how naive everyone is and convinced on a 4 month old shape-shifting new member..

Pharoa please. Get your facts straight. Maybe read the posts in this topic again. Because what you just said is wrong in so many levels. There are apparently two mods in favor of TheLordGR becoming mod, hardly what I call "everyone" or even majority.

I don't think anyone has anything smart (non void/mh/past related) to say, so I think we should just wait that admins make their decision.

I'm also confident that they make the right decision considering how well ex-hackers (*wyld*) have done as mods on ENT.

[aRt)Y]

Await a final decision by tomorrow afternoon. I will take my time evaluating what has been said.

@nabo. @Cambrioleur @gaara @hutzu pm me ur final opinion, please.

Thank you all for your Input.

[aRt)Y]

@Agreements In case the "info" PharoaheMonch gave you has any relevance, please forward it to me as well.

Locked.

[aRt)Y]

I will have to deny your application, however, not because of your past with DotA Void or any other community but because I feel you will need some more weeks building up trust again among staff members and further improving on what's been said.

Dont consider it as a failure but a step forward. I am sure the staff and especially the Forum Moderators will give you a helping hand and pay attention to your work in order to give feedback.

Please feel free to re-apply.