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Re: HazarDous@USEast.battle.net

Postby Homicide » Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:16 pm

!support
I think he'd do a good job as game moderator and the fact that he just started to imply more in forum after the complaint with Masamune its because he was tired to see all those impartial and friendly decisions from another moderator so that was the motivation he got more involved maybe because he's trying to change the things as they used to be.
I don't know what kind of joke is the fact that only 1-2 request are made on NWU per month. I'd say there are more like 10-15 or even more, sometimes, request for NWU violated rules.So that's another + for me that we really need another moderator for NWU cause Matdas for sure ain't enough, especially this time when he was unactive for some period and only Masamune was the one which dealt with NWU ban requests.

I'd say we should give him a chance and see what he's capable of, no one can't be 100% sure that he won't be on one side but I'm sure he made a lot of "friends" which will haunt him for every mistake he'd make as a staff.I'd rather take the risk and see what will happen.(I once was a beginner for game moderation, I had no expirience but people gave me credit and I didn't disappointed them and their comunity)
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Re: HazarDous@USEast.battle.net

Postby ShadowZz » Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:16 pm

He's probably the best person to make a staff application in quite a while. We all started doing ban requests/ban appeals after something happened that irritated us, such as a maphacker or a feeder. So what if his reason ended up with a complaint. Constantly bringing it up like it's a problem that he pointed out that a ENT moderator abused his power and acted completely inappropriately only looks good for him.

Calling a mod out for breaking the rules and acting like an idiot shouldn't go against him. It should go in his favor. The idea your treating that as a bad thing is like saying you don't want people to judge you when everything you do is completely public.

He's active and has a good attitude. He's personally messaged tons of mods for help with different things to learn. He's showed genuine effort and clearly spent time writing his staff application.

How can you even look at that staff app and be so negative zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I !support.
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Re: HazarDous@USEast.battle.net

Postby matdas » Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:29 pm

ok less vendetta more about staff app.

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Re: HazarDous@USEast.battle.net

Postby sleeping » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:14 am

!natural
Off topic: Nothing against jiminy because I do read most of the lod reports and I "know" why jiminy support any new admins.
it is so all of the brqs can be cleared faster and yes we all want this too but ent are all about quality over quantity.

On topic: Super active right after the incident with masamune and judging from recent threads everything leans towards a power-trip mod
but maybe should give it a month to see how everything goes. 1-2 weeks for an active person trying to become a mod is too short imo.
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Re: HazarDous@USEast.battle.net

Postby ArOuNDThaWOrLD » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:20 am

The thing is all you mods/admins except Matdas have known him for barely a week. He's been doing a great job at attempting to look good in front of you and the rest of the ENT community on the forums but the thing is (75% if not more of the NWU community will agree) he's a hypocrite and will mostly use his new mod powers to spam !alias against players he doesn't want to face or just straight up abuse eventually.

You say you want rules to be respected but I remember back on BGN when you were playing on your account RiKi_MaRu you were reported and banned multiple times for crashing games.

Found another exemple here at ENT where you crashed game --> https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.p ... 490#p69490

Now it's been confirmed that you afk in game and even reset your afk timer so you don't get kicked by teamates...How can you even get those rules to be enforced when you don't even respect them yourself...?

I do NOT hold grudges


You can say that all you want but the fact you bring up Masamune and what he has done in your app (which has nothing to do with it) just proves you're still mad about it.

That's all I had to say for a while since you seem to avoid my other questions I posted earlier. Hopefully everyone here at ENT can see the problem before it's too late.
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Postby Mercy » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:52 am

I have known Hazard longer than a week. I am the reason he got on forums to begin with, back in January.

We need to look on his future as a mod now, instead of dwell on his past, over, and over again, because people CAN change. As far as it goes, I have never seen Hazard truly flame- and none of us have been exempted from flaming. So we can get over that. He has promised to do better in the future, and without giving him a trial, we can not see that come to light.

Posting a ban request from two years ago is irrelevant to now.
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Re: HazarDous@USEast.battle.net

Postby iTwinkLyfe » Fri Aug 07, 2015 1:19 am

!support
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Re: HazarDous@USEast.battle.net

Postby Larz » Fri Aug 07, 2015 1:56 am

I would like to add my two cents worth. @Masamune I was upset when you resigned I have always liked you and you helped me out a lot when I first applied for mod. I do look forward to seeing you back as a blue. I will say I was upset when you left and I voiced it to HazarDous.
@ArOuNDThaWOrLD I seen you applied for mod sorry you did not get it yet but HazarDous did give you a full thumbs up I didnt even know this until a day or so ago. For a guy who wants nothing but elo that would be a horrible idea for him to give you a thumbs up as a mod, because if he thinks you are sniping his elo, as a mod you would have more power to do. So it makes no sense for him to give you a thumbs up as a mod other than he views you as fair. That being said he must not hold to much against you. No offence when he gave you a thumbs up ( and you are entitled to your own opinion of whether he would be a good mod or not) he showed plenty there that he had no hard feelings or vendetta. Yes he is new to the forums, and yes I hardly really know him. We have had mods in the past flame and get punished for it appropriately these are traits that can be taught. as far as his post on brq he is knowledgeable and unbiased. Yes he does have a bit to learn but it can be taught.
@Haunt @matdas
HazarDous did not want to post his application this early. He thought it was to soon after all the drama. After he was on every night trying to learn brq and the rules and how things work I told him to apply! Sooner than later. This way he would get an honest feel for what needs to be learned and be told what he needs to work on to become a solid mod. I told him if he does not get the position he would be told what he needs to work on and where he needs to improve and can re apply at a later date when he shows consistency. I do not believe this was a power grab as he wasnt exactly sure if he if he had the knowledge yet to apply.
@HazarDous whether you get the position or not, always keep the calm mannerism as a mod and improve the community. never flame dont fight back no one really wins, always de escalate and kill the enemy with kindness.
Good luck on your application.
Personally we are fighting over a game! Seriously kids! Half the fun of the game is intimidation and a little trash talk I think we lose sight of that we are all part of the same community and there isnt any reason for any one of us to dislike the other. Its just one big chess game, If someone came in our forum trash talking ent we would all have each others back.
So lets stick to the topic can he do the job and can he do it with unbiased fairness.
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Re: HazarDous@USEast.battle.net

Postby RadiantCrystal » Fri Aug 07, 2015 1:59 am

Honestly we need to get over this NWU stuff. Sure some of us may not have known him for too long (Since the first time Hazard and I played it has been at least 6 months now so I would say I know him for some time), but that is not the reason to deny or neglect this application. Like Mariah said, people can change. I have not played NWU with him so I wouldn't know what some of you are referring to, but the moderation is not for NWU only. His recent activity shows his willingness and commitment on processing ban requests and appeals to a level which if he maintains, will be a great addition to the team. As for his initiatives , all of us must start from somewhere to be on the moderation team. Everyone can write big words and blank cheques on how they may improve the ENT community and such to make an application look appealing, but his words represent his true self and I think this is very valuable. After all, we don't want someone who can only write good but not fulfilling his/her duties.
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Re: HazarDous@USEast.battle.net

Postby HazarDous » Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:10 am

HazarDous wrote: Secondly, I don't want to start a flame war here so I'll simply answer some of your points that I believe are relevant in this topic.


Obviously you're going to try to make me look bad, and as I said earlier, I'm not here to start a flame war about NWU because it's exactly what you guys want. If anything, since I came back to NWU 2 months ago, I barely talked to any of you. None of you knows me, so drop the ''he's gonna power-trip'' stuff. If anything, in this community, Mariah is the one who knows me the best.

I didn't even read your book masamune because I'm not here to flame with you. I'm sure 95% of what you wrote is irrelevant to this topic. You've stated your opinion already, now stop spamming.

Regarding your questions Gabriel, I won't answer them for the same reasons, you claim you're !neutral to begin with and now you're literally trying to ruin my reputation, on internet... We're here to have fun, let it go. Me and you never had any problems and it will remain that way. Please, just like masamune, you have stated your opinion (against) multiple times. Let other people give theirs.

@matdas Thank you matdas, back to topic.

@sleeping I can't deny the appearances. However, I assure you that I will do my best to remain unbiased on any cases I review. Goes the same way for ''admin powers''. Btw, I think you meant ''!neutral'' not ''!natural'' xD.

@JdBp Thank you, you're friendly too.

@Shadowzz I know right :D. I agree with you, I've got irritated to begin with but I can easily drop hatred towards people, I was angry against Rocky for throwing in my team (who wouldn't) and two days later I was totally fine with it. Regarding the staff app, I did spend time writing it and to be fair I modeled yours/mariah's and Arii because they were very well written.

@homicide I've reviewed a couple of your NWU BRQ's but I still don't know who you are haha, do you mind PM'ing me your IGN. Regarding your comments, It goes without a say that my ''friends'' will haunt me back if I make a mistake. All I ask is a chance to prove them wrong.

@mariah We're known eachothers for a decent amount of time and for that, I appreciate your honesty. Really unbiased despite the fact we can agree me and you are friends.

To conclude, I've done nothing wrong but I'm already being judged by the said ''NWU community'' (of which I don't know 50% of people who posted here) for the things that I will commit in the future.

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Re: HazarDous@USEast.battle.net

Postby ArOuNDThaWOrLD » Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:21 am

Mariah wrote:Posting a ban request from two years ago is irrelevant to now.


How is it not irrelevant? This wasn't the first time nor is the last he breaks rules. Doesn't matter if he broke rules because he did forum work for less than a week? I could have been a maphacker 4 years ago and it would be all good if I applied after doing forum work for a few days since that was a long time ago?

larz882003 wrote:but HazarDous did give you a full thumbs up


Guess you haven't been paying attention when most of us as been saying he's hypocrite. It would have been a pretty dumb move to be against my application if he already had the idea to apply himself a few days after. Especially when he has a grudge against me and other players. It was all part of his current scheme to look good in front of ENT when he truly isn't.

RadiantCrystal wrote:After all, we don't want someone who can only write good but not fulfilling his/her duties.


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Re: HazarDous@USEast.battle.net

Postby Masamune » Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:07 am

I want to say I enjoyed writing this wall of text especially considering I took half an hour of my life to write it. I hope people actually take the time to read all this in-depth. I mean no offense if I caused any (specifically at Shadowzz + HazarD).

@ShadowZz
ShadowZz wrote:He's probably the best person to make a staff application in quite a while. We all started doing ban requests/ban appeals after something happened that irritated us, such as a maphacker or a feeder. So what if his reason ended up with a complaint. Constantly bringing it up like it's a problem that he pointed out that a ENT moderator abused his power and acted completely inappropriately only looks good for him.


Uh no. There have been plenty other people who have made far better staff apps than he has. I abused my power in only ONE game simply because he kept coming up when Profe+I did not want to play with him. I don't think he ever mentioned to you that he was flaming me in many other games before this one, hence all the hostility you saw in chat. I don't have evidence on this because the games have long expired, but matdas/AtW can vouch when I talked to them in /f m about it months ago. There has been bad blood between us since 2013. There have been cases where other NWU admins have abused as well like TakeNRun - he flamed and swap abused but he claimed he wasn't aware of it. I owned up to my actions unlike HazarD. Also, flaming is practically part of NWU. No idea why you call me out for flaming in that thread when everyone else in their life does it too, especially in DotA. Pretty sure it's not as bad as DotA's though aka Jiminy_Cricket :3


ShadowZz wrote:Calling a mod out for breaking the rules and acting like an idiot shouldn't go against him. It should go in his favor. The idea your treating that as a bad thing is like saying you don't want people to judge you when everything you do is completely public. He's active and has a good attitude. He's personally messaged tons of mods for help with different things to learn. He's showed genuine effort and clearly spent time writing his staff application.


Also, what good attitude? Lol. Forgive me for provoking you but don't make me laugh - I love how you completely ignore the fact that he's just doing this for power over others, especially in an attempt to get even with me. You even bring my resignation into question. That was the very first complaint I have gotten in my entire time as Mod. Hazard is the very definition of a hypocrite. You don't know him as well the NWU community does. You only see what he wants you to see. What do you not see in this thread that clearly shows that he signed up for mod for the wrong reasons? This whole application is stemmed in the whole idea that he just wants to protect his ELO by using his power, not because he wants to help people in ENT. For him, it's just a stepping stone to help assert his position over others mainly in NWU. I don't know if you read this entire app thread or not, but he obviously made that complaint to see me demoted and that is why I resigned in the first place. I'm pretty sure that if you saw what he said in those timestamps, you would be saying a different story. Me resigning is irrelevant

Yet, I don't even know why you bring up my resignation here, yet you two keep bringing it up. Why? I have not talked about it once aside from my own defense against you and Hazard. It's entirely irrelevant to the topic. Actually read the thread and reply intelligently because you seem to be ignoring the key elements here. I don't know if you noticed but Reds/Greens are not looking for time and effort (like the 4 pages of BReqs I saw last week). That's just something people say to create activity and look for active mods. Reds/Greens are actually looking for behavior, intent and reasoning regarding why people want mod. I have been honest this whole way. Hazard has not. There is a difference between my reply and HazarD's.

@Homicide
It's not that I'm friendly/impartial toward people, it's more that this game is practically dead with only 2 games played at a time per day. It's NWU... not DotA. The more people I ban, the less people are able to play and games won't be able to start. Tbh, I honestly don't care about the NWU requests unless they are MHers, impersonators or ban-dodgers lol. Half of them are just vendetta requests like HazarD's and that's the reason why I denied yours back in the day like Azog's requests on me. I don't like handling those types of requests unless you are actually present in the game.


@Mariah
When I made my app in 2013, I have clearly voiced out that I flamed/trolled in-game and sometimes on forums. I have known Riki_Maru (HazarD) for two years. His behavior is still the same. The past always dictates the future because the past ALWAYS REPEATS itself. That was my history and the last question Agreements asked me before I became a Mod. I have shown that "flamey" hostility on someone else 2 years after (now), the same time that ELO was in NWU. Do you see the similarity between the two years and now? Whenever a game has ELO, there is always bound to be drama. Read the spoilers because I knew this would happen. I have a sixth sense for predictions and it is certainly almost always correct. Especially like in DotA related games. There is more drama about ELO than in no ELO. He even avoided playing for a week on HazarD because he was afraid that if he flamed in chat, it would hurt his chances of being a mod. But I don't think he realizes that he applies right after I resign in an attempt to get even with me by getting Blue is a little more than suspicious. His actions/behavior shows he's a nothing more than a lying hypocrite lol. His activity suddenly increased after I resigned rather than many months ago. "You think you know some people, but no one will really ever know them except for themselves." is a quote. I'm not sure where it's from. I honestly don't think HazarDous deserves a trial for 1-2 weeks. What he should have done was what @Haunt said and applied in September and in that way, all these replies would all be !support. Maybe if he continues his activity and behavior in-game for the whole month (in NWU especially), we can all see the possibility of him receiving this position. There is a mixed opinion from everyone here.


@larz882003
I appreciate the sentiment but I actually only resigned to see what HazarDous would do next. I have to admit, I enjoyed watching his activity on forum spring up just after I resigned. I don't know if you noticed, but half the mods who are on here have become mods simply because they wanted power. However, the other half have lives and can't always get to it. I didn't want to keep blue because then it'd be a "conflict of interest" over here. Hazard says one thing but means the other when he talks with you. There's always a silver lining and hidden agenda behind everyone's attempt to get admin. His reasons just happens to be extremely obvious. Have you heard of the Watergate Scandal? Consider it like this, but at least I do not try to cover up lies like HazarD does. I resigned shamelessly and with grace, accepting my punishment for what I did. But it was also to be free of responsibility. In reality, I was proving a point that he was obviously trying to apply for Mod because he wanted to alias me, my friends or other players just so he can dodge games and not lose ELO. I can link you text chats where he keeps leaving games vs me just so he can protect it because it means so much to him but I just don't care enough about it. The only thing I care about is that if he is a power abuser or not. He's the very definition of an "ELO hound" and it's funny to see how much he cares about it. It's more about quantity > quality for him rather than the opposite. He will obviously abuse his power if he is given it. If you want, I can always re-apply in a few months time when all of this clears up. :) I want things to do while I sit bored to death in class. :D

@HazarDous

But you did start a flame war just now when you started insulting me in your own app when I have made no assault toward you? Around is only stating what he sees and it's the truth. Profe even agreed. He (being Around) asked matdas for admin long before you ever applied here and matdas replied with a no.

"I have no life"
"You're all pitiful Cien"
"i at least want a decent to beat krnx and his fucking noobs (masamune/cien/profe/etc)"

I don't know what you're trying to prove here but at least don't cover up your lies when the truth is out in the open. You are making an app for the wrong reasons and you still haven't answered the timestamps regarding ELO. Are you that desperate to protect your ELO or what? God damn. You still haven't answered the question regarding the fact that you only want mod because you want to protect your ELO from "ELO snipers". Can you answer Around's question or are you just going to ignore the fact that you are just power hungry and refuse to admit it in front of all the admins? Why don't you stop brown-nosing and start being more honest in your application.



I don't know if this is relevant but here's a little story I had with both Arty, matdas and Muzk regarding NWU.


@RadiantCrystal

The main game he plays is NWU, not LTD or DotA. Sure, he can handle other requests like everyone else but it still doesn't change the fact that he plays NWU more often than other games. Check his activity on the stats board and you can see how much time he puts into LTD. He's obviously doing it for power lol. I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself here. He has refused or avoided to answer Gabriel's question four times now. I don't know what else you need to prove that he signed up for the wrong reasons.


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Sent: Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:07 am
From: Masamune
Recipient: matdas aRt)Y muZk

As much as I supported ELO renewal, I'm thinking of changing my mind on it now. Due to recent events unfolding on the NWU forum, I think its clear that the NWU community doesn't deserve having ELO even after the few years that have passed.

They haven't grown up and still cause the same drama to this very day. However, the final say is on you both; I'm just the messenger. I may have had a bad history flaming/trolling on ENT, but I keep it professional on here nowadays when I can. NWU has run its fair share of games and MuZk himself said he's making this game for ten year olds. He avoids this community because it is toxic and childish which is why he refused to update this map on time in the past year. I'd prefer it if this game has a peaceful death with good memories (and lasting effect) in a few years rather than a toxic community that will never learn and grow up.

Thanks for reading. I haven't announced that on the NWU forum, but I made the recipients who are the heads of this decision aware of my input.

Thanks for reading.

-Masamune


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Re: NWU ELO
Sent: Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:14 am
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if muzk doesnt want drama, then he simply doesnt have to update the map to allow elo and voilà.


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Sent: Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:32 am
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I can try to convince him. He sees what's going on atm. I already told him my decision about this and they really don't deserve ELO back. We'll see what happens. It'll be a bit though since Muzk is busy with life and such.


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Re: NWU ELO
Sent: Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:48 pm
by muZk

I don't care about the drama. Lets see what happens when ELO is 100% back.


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Re: NWU ELO
Sent: Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:37 pm
by matdas

I don't really care about elo. The game got more popular when people saw !ff was giving/losing elo.

I only play the game with my friends so its not like its a big deal to me whether elo is in or not.

Add it and see what happens.


Thanks for taking the time to read this people who have been tagged and Reds/Greens! Have a nice night!


-Masamune
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Re: HazarDous@USEast.battle.net

Postby supersexyy » Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:47 am

What's so bad about him wanting power? As long as he doesn't abuse and processes ban requests then it's fine.
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Re: HazarDous@USEast.battle.net

Postby Hatedmaru » Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:34 am

Well i do agree with most of the opinions so far regarding your activity + It's never a good idea to rush an application after a moderator just resigned in my opinion - Haven't seen you on forums at all until this very situation/complaint with Masamune.

+ this ban request sort of backfires at you: https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=64296
I don't really like Rocky so I won't make a call on that because I fear it might be biased.


Why? Easy: There will be times where you might have to judge/review people you know/friends & people you dislike, and your feelings/emotions should stay out from it in both cases.

At the moment, despite the recent increase of activity and the commitment/effort, i can't support it since in my opinion it's too early to accept it (Judging the forum vs ingame behaviour, it's obvious the 2 doens't match at the moment).

Note: If you ever become a moderator, you can't simply !ignore users, quoting art)y from a previous application:

Furthermore, !ignore is not the solution for a moderator. You are supposed to represent ENT and therefore be capable of managing some pressure. You must be reading ('read' not 'flame back') what they write else you can't provide service in form of information and neither help your teammates or the enemies (e.g. he ghosts).

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Postby Mercy » Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:08 pm

A ban request from TWO YEARS AGO is not relevant to now. If it were six months ago, that is different. He was 15 when it had happened, and I can tell you a lot can change in 2 years. I have not seen him abuse a glitch or any history of glitch abuse besides that instance. Therefore, not relevant.

4 years ago would be irrelevant if your history for 3 years was clean of maphacking.

What is relevant is what his mission statement is. He has acknowledged and so far ensured that he would do what he can to adjust his behaviors.

My support remains.


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