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I think you are a nice, friendly and fair guy, tho I don't know you too well, but attitude wise it should be all good

Some more activity in the vouch request section would be nice as that is pretty much the only area we could need more help (though ofc, if you get accepted you can/should work in all areas, I don't want to say that you should only do vouch requests then ). To be honest I'm not so sure if you can judge them properly, hence some examples would be helpful, you could start here: https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.p ... 21#p207521

Generally I stll think we don't really need more mods. The last time (last 2-3 weeks) it was a bit stressful, but there was way more to do than usually with the season end, the new clog rule and way more vouch requests (11 in february so far and 16 in january, while only 7 in december, 6 in november, 6 in october etc).

Regardless, I'm not against accepting you, so far I'm neutral and I would like to see some replay analysis/comments. And thanks for applying

I wont allow the "dont really need more mods" argument anymore. If there's no other reason to deny this application, it will be approved.

However, we will wait for more comments, feedback, etc. to see if he's suitable.

It's just my opinion and obviously won't lead to a deny if we otherwise would accept him.

imo nore isnt in the league long enough to get beeing a moderator.
though he fits on attitude and stuff, i think he lacks on experience on playing. he got only 35 lihl games so far, thats way to less imo. i would not like to have such an unexperienced lihl-player to judge the new-vouches and also judge the problems which accure in the league itself.
still <3 u nore

Really nice guy, have had heard some complaints of him TKing in games before though I haven't seen it in any games I've played with him, seemed fine to me.

I support since we kinda need mods who is active dayoutanddayin, maybe he should replace hutzu as LIHL mod mainly because i think hutzu should focus on the bigger stuff on ENT?

I got nothing against hutzu at all, why should i right? I just think he is abit to personal in his actions which isn't really needed for LIHL?

Just to consideration..

!support friendly guy always willing to listen and cooperate and most important active

I do agree with Diablo's perspective in regards to Nore being new to the league and still learning. So, I am not sure whether he can judge all types of lihl plays. But, with guidance from other lihl mods and seeing how active he is within the league, he should have no problem.

As an already blue mod, it should be evident that he is pretty fair and objective with his decisions; knows how to use moderation tools; knowledgeable with mh, AS exploit, and other ltd/lihl rules and concepts.

Having more than enough staff should not be a problem. The more the better imo and one's capability, commitment, and consistency should be the main question. If there is not much to do, that is fine also, Nore can do more brqs and appeals instead.

Vouch request activity only started recently probably because he decided to apply for lihl mod just recently. Pending the application and seeing the types of reviews/feedbacks he provides would be a good idea.

Support, if he can.t handle the vouching part, he can help with other stuffs

@hutzu ?

Omg, I was just writing a pretty long reply but my firefox died
Will be shorter now ...

Hutzu seems to be very busy lately.

A comment from @michaelsong is also missing so far.

About your replay analysis in tom's app:
First of all, better formatting would be cool, and I don't think that people want to read essays about what they built on what level and when they pushed (they already know that since it was them playing ). Short and concrete feedback usually is better, just write what they did wrong and what they could do better.
The replays are also pub replays and shouldn't be judged based on a LIHL environment, comments like "this worked in your game, but you shouldn't do it since it probably wouldn't work in LIHL" don't make much sense. Sure if it's something important you can mention it, but it's not a bad play because of that.
The content of your analysis imo was ok, though there are also some flaws.
His mortar positioning is totally fine and also his build is ok. All in all it was a pretty great game as it showed that he understands every important area of the game. He held all levels until 7 while also pushing pretty much. He pushed whenever he could and never overbuilt for no reason. He calculated well, had a plan in his mind and executed it without any mistakes. He stayed 7/5 (hence building for 10) and overbuilt until the other team sent on 14 and possibly saved his team with his overbuilding (only he held his lane and there were still 40 leaks, if he also pushed they probably would have leaked 50-60 creeps), again nice planning ahead.

In the other replay his "overbuilding" on lvl 1-3 was also totally ok, it's simply a matter of preference whether you want to be safe and ob a bit or want to risk it and push more. Even if you let 5 top LIHL players play with the same roll you will get many different results, so please be a bit more open minded
Same with upping the mermaid on level 8 vs pushing, some would build, some would push, neither is correct nor wrong, what will be better usually can't be judged at that point and will vary in every game. Building the meliai is probably the first "real" mistake in his replays (but ofc no big deal) as it didn't help any on level 9 nor 10 and was simply useless, same with minotaur after lvl 10. The mermaid placement on the other hand was again totally fine, it's better in the long run and actually helped tanking a bit on level 12 and 13, so it was also better at that point. And saying that he shouldn't have made the grizzlies is simply wrong, they do fine on 14, 15 and 17, keeping them is totally normal. All in all that replay again was totally fine, barely any mistakes done while again showing good knowledge of the game.
The biggest problem I have with your feedback is that you kinda only see one way of playing correct, which is kinda wrong and not that helpful. Yes, distinguishing between a mistake and a matter of personal preference isn't easy (also wolfwarrior sometimes does that mistake imo) and that's why it's better if a pretty skilled/experienced player reviews vouch requests.
Nonetheless I'm ok with your replay analysis, and I'm sure you could further improve it

Let's see now what Hutzu and Wolf think about your app

If greatbeyond really wants to be mod, i can do the vouches instead of him or for the lihl mods till he gets more experienced - if thats the only criteria that he is lacking rofl

But the thing is, saying that he should do xxx (your opinion) when it's not better than his decision, but rather just different, it isn't helpful or even wrong. The comments from Hutzu on your vouch request state mistakes.
Building neotank for level 10 when you have 4 EAs is bad. Selling EAs is (usually) bad. Making doomsday instead of neotank is (usually) bad. Spamming neos/dooms when it's clear they don't send 17 (as Hutzu said at least) is bad. RRing polar+grizzly+hydra when they sent 13 is bad or at least questionable. Not upgrading tot until lvl 20 is bad. Placing bottom feeder infront of ygg is bad.
While building 5 mortar in a straight line at the wall instead of 2 horizontal lines is just different and both options are totally fine. Overbuilding slightly vs pushing are also both fine options. And same with most other stuff you criticized.

Again, I don't want to be mean or say you are bad or anything, but as I said seeing the difference between this isn't easy, but is somewhat needed to handle vouch requests properly.

Frankly speaking, I cannot deny I was the one who was !against his application at first.
There were several reasonable reasons to my !against which can several of LIHL players and Mods could accept.

But, after discussion with beyond and taking a step to reconsider my thoughts,
I changed my mind.

I'm neutral atm.

I want to see more LIHL players opinions, such as support since nobody would like to !against to whom he doesn't know well.

It's ok if he doesn't play on above average skill of lihl. We aren't only vouching people who meet criteria, which he doesn't meet himself, but criteria on his and lower levels. I consider him experienced and clever enough to understand if someone made a better choice than he'd have done. He might miss a thing or two, when reviewing, but that's ok. That's why they are on trial first anyway (the vouched players, not him as mod).
He can always post on vouches first without making a final decision of accepting/denying. I did the same way too.

As Game-mod he has shown nothing but good.
!support