Reason why Reconnect G-proxy should be banned

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Reason why Reconnect G-proxy should be banned

Postby OneHardSuck » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:18 am

I wonder why this is even here. If someone has an old computer or a bad connection its his own problem. when this begins to happen all 7 players need to wait for that one player with bad connection. I ask You- why should I wait if thats not my problem and a big waste of my personal time outside the game? I can wait 45 secs and I should be allowed to even start vk after first 10 secs because as I said ealier- Its not my or anyone's problem that someone has a bad connection :roll: . Also it gets very annoying when Gproxy works all the time I once waited around 15 minutes with breaks, because of this shit and other players wont kick him because they needed this one lagger to have more chances of winning.
- viewtopic.php?f=7&t=33089 here Reallife said "hi,
you are responseable for you computer and you connection. ofc it can happen that your pc gets damaged and you get disconnected" Saying that and knowing about G-proxy is avaible and legal... level of hipocrite - over 9000!
Dont say its a diffrent situation its all the same. ITS NONE OF ANYONE'S BUSSINES IF U HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR CONNECTION.
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Re: Reason why Reconnect G-proxy should be banned

Postby Stealer » Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:20 am

So you're arguing that methods of preventing uneven teams (3v4, etc) should not be used?

I don't have access to logs, but @uakf.b could probably tell you the number of uneven games prevented because of this and most people appreciate having even games.

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Re: Reason why Reconnect G-proxy should be banned

Postby OneHardSuck » Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:51 am

I Still dont wanna waste any of my(and others) private time. 45 seconds is enought to wait for a dumbass with poor internet. If You know that You have a bad connection fix that or dont join the games... Simple. I dont think its a bad idea I just saw ppl abusing it too many times. If Your playing a game You should feel responsibile for ur connection. Damn how many times I need to repeat that? If a guy get drop too many times ban him...
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Re: Reason why Reconnect G-proxy should be banned

Postby Krumme » Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:42 am

I am absolutely sure this can't and wont be changed as alot of people tend to have a bad connection and not letting people have the ability to reconnect so simply is just absurd as we already have such a tool
Having to wait 160 seconds instead of 45 seconds might be a "big" problem for you but for the guy having the issue it's a huge help
Now I understand that you don't care about anyone but yourself and your gaming experience but regardless of what you want and think this tool helps alot of people reconnecting so fast and easy that it would be ignorant to remove it

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Re: Reason why Reconnect G-proxy should be banned

Postby 13oomheadshot » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:37 am

@krumme
i understand both sides, but is it possible to not only have a 45 second wait time(per lag) but also a max lagging time acceptable? say 200 seconds max lag time allowed for people who lag 35 seconds at a time. this could avoid the 15 minutes of wasted time waiting for a player as @onehardsuck stated he had an earlier problem with, while giving players who experience brief lost connections could still reconnect using Gproxy as long as they dont go over the combined lag time limit.

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Re: Reason why Reconnect G-proxy should be banned

Postby Krumme » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:44 am

@13oomheadshot - there is already a maximum lagg
Even though you don't lagg out - if you lagg alot (not sure how long it is) but there is a maximum lagg time and then you simply get autokicked
so all I see is people that complain over people that lagg for a minute or two MAX and you can't wait the time?
If you want to know what the maximum lagg time is contact a game moderator or ENT admin or wait for some of them to notice this thread and respond ^_^

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Re: Reason why Reconnect G-proxy should be banned

Postby 13oomheadshot » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:48 am

oh i didn't know there was already a maximum lag time since in his post he said he waited 15 minutes for a lagger in one game. oops :D
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Re: Reason why Reconnect G-proxy should be banned

Postby Diablo_ » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:31 am

Gproxy ftw ^.^
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Re: Reason why Reconnect G-proxy should be banned

Postby OneHardSuck » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:51 pm

Krumme wrote:Now I understand that you don't care about anyone but yourself and your gaming experience but regardless of what you want and think this tool helps alot of people reconnecting so fast and easy that it would be ignorant to remove it

Oh what a great argument about whole situation... And its not what I want, You have no idea how much its annoying for other ppl.
Krumme wrote:@13oomheadshot - there is already a maximum lagg
Even though you don't lagg out - if you lagg alot (not sure how long it is) but there is a maximum lagg time and then you simply get autokicked

Lol, there is no such thing and if there is its way too long. I saw lihl players using that shit to go to the toilet or something and they were laughting about it. They just restart theirt internet while going somewhere. That guy(Gog) used that last time for like 3 times it wont to 80 seconds. everytime stopped at the same lagg time. Its just pathetic.
All i saw here is u gyus are only protect people with bad connection... what it has in common with other ppl waiting for that one guy? All Im saying here and I see that I need to repeat it all the time - ITS NONE OF ANYONES PROBLEM IF SOMEONE HAS A BAD CONNECTION. Prove me wrong.
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Re: Reason why Reconnect G-proxy should be banned

Postby Diablo_ » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:58 pm

OneHardSuck wrote: I saw lihl players using that shit to go to the toilet or something and they were laughting about it. They just restart theirt internet while going somewhere. That guy(Gog) used that last time for like 3 times it wont to 80 seconds. everytime stopped at the same lagg time. Its just pathetic.


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Re: Reason why Reconnect G-proxy should be banned

Postby Krumme » Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:11 pm

No matter what you say or how many stories you make up - gproxy is rarely abused and I'm telling you to let this discussion go as it will 100% sure not be changed as gproxy is 1000% more helpfull than it is hurtfull

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Re: Reason why Reconnect G-proxy should be banned

Postby OneHardSuck » Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:20 pm

Idc what u think about my stories I also dont care if Gproxy will be taken down or not. This is one of those topics that i put here to see what u guys have to say about that, because im comin up with good solid arguments why should i waste my time and others because of one guy's' connection and all u have to say about that is "gproxy if helpful" thats not even an proper answer. Abusing G-proxy is POSSIBLE and ppl who using that shit exacly know how to do that Gog was first who i saw was using that.. You say Gproxy is more helpfull that it hurtfull? :roll: Rescuing( maybe, a chance for) that one player and wasting all other people's time... Math will be needed here. Also i repeat that several times, its boring You wont understand that, any of u
Its a private bot so You make here rights. But in eyes of lawyers in real life U would be fucked. Whats more important?
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Re: Reason why Reconnect G-proxy should be banned

Postby aRt)Y » Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:08 pm

"solid argument" ... "why should I waste my time"

Come up with some proper ideas. Your sportsmanship must be terrible if you are against players reconnecting whose connection may not be the best/as stable as yours.
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Re: Reason why Reconnect G-proxy should be banned

Postby OneHardSuck » Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:28 pm

@aRt)y
Im tired of explaining it over and over again Please read my first post, slowly again... Also read about abusing that Proxy
Your sportsmanship must be terrible if you are against players reconnecting whose connection may not be the best/as stable as yours.

Nah I think it should be allowed in leagues and tournaments.
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Re: Reason why Reconnect G-proxy should be banned

Postby aRt)Y » Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:36 pm

I did read your post. It states the same as the posts after it - and no, I don't care whether you wait 30, 45 or 180 seconds.
why should I wait if thats not my problem and a big waste of my personal time outside the game?

And yes, I did talk about your sportsmanship in public games since ENT does not have a league or "pro games".

Perhaps you wanna read the general rules again (http://wiki.entgaming.net/index.php?title=EntGaming:Rules):
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Your suggestion does break with both principles ENT has.
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