New CF bot topic !

[Teshin]

Jesus christ, you closed the suggestion about a new bot, just because there's hardly any players with 1100 elo+. Did you not read the part where I suggested other join requirements, like at least 50 games played, 85% stayrate and 50% wins. If you wanna keep the level of play above an average skill level, you gotta do something for the better players, or they'll get sick of having games destroyed, and start playing other games, just like me. I went from 15 games a day to basically 1 game a day. Been like this for 5-6 days now. Funny thing about my past 5-6 games; 1 was with insane mode, with crazy coins, income timer 5, startgold 500. Other one was with -bal2, and ofc both my teammates left, so I was stuck with 2 bots. Other game I desynced, another one I was suddenly dropped by the ENT bot, without even losing connection to the internet. You can imagine my lust for playing here hasn't improved much. The noobs, ruiners, -afk abusers, retard troll modes, random desyncs and disconnects, just fucking killed my motivation for playing here. Same happened to alot of other good players. So far you are embracing all these fuckers, and turning your back on the skilled and comitted players.. You need to make other join requirements than the 1100 elo, obvious fucking ly.

There's probably 1000 of those 4-5000 players, that could easily get alot more than 1100 elo, if they didn't always play with shitty noobs/firsttimers,non english speakers/-afk abusers/ruiners.

[aRt)Y]

The point is, the skill difference among the players is not majorly different.

You can still get afk abusers or trollers since experienced players are more likely to do that than total newbies who dont even know which modes can be chosen.

But fine, I will check other criteria later today - though I doubt stay rates or the amount of games are is going to solve your issue with newbies.

[Teshin]

Actually the main issue isn't "newbies". The main issue is desync, random disconnects, troll modes, the ability to do -afk and never come back, leaving your team with a bot, or people that can't speak a single word of English. Put a proper mode, change the map to avoid desyncs, make a join criteria that says 100 games played, or 75, this will certainly decrease the amount of gameruiners, that's for sure. And boom, problems solved. Wouldn't even require that much of you.

[aRt)Y]

checking

[aRt)Y]

Got to correct the stats since CF games are merged.

408 players with > 100 games. Prior thread it was 4.67%, now it's 3.48%.
541 players with > 75 games.
635 players with a score > 1100.
11071 players with a score < 1100.
Total players on CF 11706.


Still doesn't look feasible for me. Voting a mode seems the most logical thing. Regarding, afking or game ruin, you just gotta report them and we can perhaps enforce the rules more harshly on CF.

[Teshin]

Well, anything done is a good thing done, at this point. Vote mode would definitely make an impact. Using -afk should be illegal. The bot will take over and fuck everything up, and if he doesn't return, when we kick him, the bot will still try to build for him, even in -bal1. Remove -afk!

[Kunert88]

i dont know if the admins can remove -afk because its from the map itself, but there is a mode u can use -noafk or -noai i dont know what works , on the new 1.25 map it was noai that noone can go afk maybe it works for 1.22 too havent used -noafk long time ago but i think its a fail mode cause it doenst work ,but i cant remember :/

[aRt)Y]

Well, we can forbid using -afk as a mode via rules. That's not the issue, lel.

[Teshin]

-nafk doesn't work. people using -afk is a MAJOR issue. even 2 min afk can cause the bot to ruin early game. and if they get kicked while being afk, the bot will override players trying to control leaver, and still build useless shit, even in -bal1 mode.

[aRt)Y]

So what's the CF map command to kick afkers? Just -afk or smth else? Would it apply to all CF maps we host or just the 3v3?

[Kunert88]

in the 2vs2 map u can type the mode -noai then u cant make -afk that a bot control your worker, the normal way to kick afks is !votekick and the name , but if u change the rule not using -afk there will be hundrets of ppl who can be banned for this i use afk also when have to go from the computer for some time, play with a bot in bal1 mode can be handle u just need to watch ofen the gold from the worker that the bot doesnt build useless things ^^

[aRt)Y]

So on the one hand it ruins the game and on the other it's practical..?

[Kunert88]

bal1 mode is that when someone leave u can control the leaver , when someone is afk and got kick, u and the bot control the leaver . but there its practical that u can win when u contentrate more on the worker gold who also the bot is , with normal afk only the bot control the worker from the player who typed afk, there can the bot ruin the game, but dunno how the other ppl here see it when u and a bot control the same worker i had often this situation so im more experince in it so i can speak only for me , i think to ban -afk is not a good thing cause when newbies control 2workers in their team ( when 1 team mate left) its rlly hard for new ppl to control 2 workers so they can do 1 worker afk and can conzentrate more on their main worker

[Teshin]

you got this all wrong. it's REALLY simple. when you use -afk. and then you get votekicked with !votekick. the bot WILL try to build useless shit, constantly, and it's a pain in the ASS. this happens even with -bal1 mode. You need to COMPLETELY remove the -afk command, there is TOO much gameruin and abuse going on with -afk.

Solution: Add a RULE that says every player is allowed to take 30 sec pause, simply by pausing the game. Ofcourse he is obligated to do a simple 3-2-1 countdown, before pausing. Then when 30 secs are over, people can resume again, OR his 2 teammates can use their own 30 sec pauses and wait a bit longer for him. It's really simple. So every player has 30 sec pause, which makes it a total of 90 sec pause for both teams, in every round, that is. Make a new rule about it, and make it punishable to resume the game, before the pause timer has run out.

In order to help this get implemented, I highly suggest you hire some admins that you know for sure plays alot of CF games. They can instant punish people that doesn't follow the new rule. It's quite useless if a guy resumes, then someone reports, and 12-48 hours later you guys give him a ban punishment. Odds are he's not even about to play in the time he's banned, and wont even notice he was ever banned. Ofcourse you have to highlight this new rule, everywhere possible. Add this rule along with a gamemode commandstring, and we will shortly see way better games.

[Teshin]

What's up with the bots dropping players randomly??? What's the reason behind it? It happens A-L-O-T. Not talking about desyncs btw.