Angel Arena Eclipse

[Brando]

I was wondering why Angel Arena Allstars gets hosted and not Angel Arena Eclipse. Eclipse is a much much more fun game with secret items, gods, and just overall imo, and I feel that allstars gets very boring after a while. Just a suggestion that maybe you guys could trial run the Eclipse map? I would definitely play it, and i am sure that alot of other people will too.

For one, the last time i remember playing Allstars, it was very very slow paced. I know that in the beginning of every AA game, it is very slow paced due to the fact that you are very weak, and you have to work together to kill units, but Allstars is exceptionally bad in the beginning, much like Hell vs Heaven. Eclipse is much better for getting the game started, and getting right into action. There is a TON of better and cooler items that you can acquire throughout the game. I mean if you just look at the layout of the map, there is just so much more you can do! Become a god, killing the gods, acquiring godlike items, and much much more. I can 100 percent guarantee you that eclipse is a more fun version of AA, although i cannot guarantee you people playing it as often as AAA, but i am sure the lobbies will fill. ( Also another thing i would like to input, is that IT SERIOUSLY feels like Allstars is all about farming creeps the whole game! It feels like Allstars is more focused on farming than fighting ! lol. You won't see people farming creeps throughout the mid game in Eclipse, people have objectives such as killing a certain god, acquiring an item, ect. I may be the only one, but it SERIOUSLY feels like Allstars is 75 percent of the time killing creeps.)


http://www.epicwar.com/maps/217418/ < this is the map

[nabo.]

@brando
Include the map. I know AAA has tons of different versions. The one we are hosting is the original afaik. Explain why the version you are suggesting is better in comparison to our current AAA map.

@av1on
Have you played this one?

[nabo.]

@brando @nabo. I've always had a close connection with AAE more than I ever have with AAA but there is too many unstable versions that give eclipse a bad rep and honestly this map is a perfect example of one of them.

Despite your own opinions on AAA, This is why I think AAA is a better suited map for all angel arena players globally:

• The items are stackable, much easier than constantly having to drop and combine.
• The item stock allows you to pass items including potions/consumables between your main hero and the stock itself compared to AAE's item storage which in most versions require you to go through an altar to even use.
• The overall balance of AAA has a more steady progression than AAE which can go from an easy flowing farm to disadvantaging imba tactics.
• AAA actually holds usefulness for it's items rather than getting high amounts of statistics or armor like angel armor or supreme cerebrus set.
• The late-game heroes of AAA are balanced with only slightly advantaging features compared to AAE where it's either you get a god hero or die miserably.

Now back onto Eclipse itself, many versions of it have consisted of fanboy editors simply put who didn't like how AAE was originally set so brought themselves to do these insane changes, even looking into this map I found very advantaging game breaking bugs that would go against many ENT rules in the act of generalized gameplay. If this map in specific was ever put on ENT there'd have to be countless rule-specifications to ensure people don't derail within seconds of the game to instantly turn it into op vs weak.

Some of the so-called advantages (in-case @nabo. asks) will be listed below, but won't be too detailed.

• Hidden late-game items obtainable by merely walking to it.
• Early game godly heroes especially since this version has a blinkable whisp.
• Hidden items in the top of the map which are unobtainable without blinking yourself and initially crashing the game.
• Early late-game items via another location which, again, takes nothing more than walking.
• Over intensified graphics which can cause serious lag issues.
• Easy access to insanely overpowered items like angel armor or supreme cerebrus set which is thousands of stats and armor with cheap costs.
• Assuming this version is like other eclipses, some of the heroes in the selection will insanely overpower the others.

I don't mean to shoot down this thread but there are a lot of unstable eclipse versions which can call for just randomly becoming imba and roaming around the map with blink and initially +10,000 armor and stats within minutes if done properly. Though, I do know of a better and more stable version of eclipse which I will list below because, as I said earlier, eclipse was always my first.

angelarenaeclipsexvii.w3x (hopefully my attachment went through, didn't bother with epicwar)
Load code on ENT: kxcxc

This map is a lot better primarily because it gets rid of the 2 main godly heroes known as The Creator and TitanXVL something (the creator's assistant) and also gets rid of the many of the imba godly heroes in the selection followed by the whisps capability to do such. Most of the map is balanced, for the most part. A lot of the commonly known godly items and very flashy graphics are removed. Honestly speaking, this is the AAE version I know and love the most.

Though, there are still some concerns with this map that keep people questionable mainly because the late-game heroes all have blink (the godly ones) and of course it's a global blink around the entire map so if @nabo. or @art)y approve the map, I'd like for some rules to be set in place (can be discussed, just future reference).

My main reason for not coming forward on eclipse was mainly because AAA is already a very small community with no more than 2 games at a time a day. I can't guarantee that eclipse will be any better, especially with it's reputation but I'm willing to support eclipse being added only if it is the map I just posted.

@brando Feel free to test it yourself, you'll see a huge difference followed by a lot more balance.

[nabo.]

@av1on thank you for your feedback.

What about angelarena dragonball? I tried this one few times and I liked it.

[Brando]

@av1on

Yes, thank you for the feedback. Your eclipse version is good. I didn't have the exact map and just listed any map that said Angel Arena Eclipse. I support the map you posted also!

[aRt)Y]

Map change approved.

[uakf.b]

updated to AngelArenaEclipseXVII.w3x (load code kxcxc)

let me know if that wasn't the desired change

[Merex]

@uakf.b I think the initial idea was to give angel arena eclipse it's own hosting bot, not change allstars.

[nabo.]

@av1on I think all others thought this suggestion was to replace old AAA map.

[Merex]

AAA still has a lively community.. They're all gonna wake up and see there's no longer the AAA map for [ENT] Angel Arena Allstars

@nabo.

[nabo.]

@av1on lets see how this goes for now. Did u like the dbz one? xd

[SteelKnight]

please change the bot running eclipse arena under the name angel arena allstars, thank you, restore it back please

[Merex]

@nabo.

AAA still has a lively community.. They're all gonna wake up and see there's no longer the AAA map for [ENT] Angel Arena Allstars

[Arczi]

I'd like to join Steel's request. The community is pretty lively, at the same time Eclipse is something completely different than Angel Arena Allstars.

[SteelKnight]

if eclipse is what you want to run dont call it angel arena allstars, call it what it is, if i want to play AAA we have the option you give us to load it, thank you...