Autohost [Castle Fight] elo Bot

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Autohost [Castle Fight] elo Bot

Postby wTc[JediMaster] » Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:27 pm

Link to map (or load code if it's on the public hosting bot): ENT have the map, Same as used for ENT1 & ENT65

Slot layout if applicable (for example, if some slots need to be closed): 3v3 - Red 1, Blue 2, Teal 3, Green 7, Pink 8, Grey 9. The rest of the slots closed.

Number of players until autostart: 6 (3v3)

Problems with map (like cheats and such), if any: well most of them are known so same setup as on ENT1 the 3v3 bot would work.

Why the map should be autohosted: Now to the point, I know this is not the first time we bring this up but I hope it will be passed this time.
Castle Fight should have an elo based bot like 1200+ to balance out the games abit. Now alot of the people playing either have 1300+ elo or 999- and that makes for mostly unbalanced teams & elo change, since the skill/ratio/elo balance of a game looks alot like: (avg: 1400; change: +2/-28).

And that makes troll accs verry usefull and needed to the CF comunity soemthing thats abit sad but when alot of the people playing are playing on accs that have 900 elo the players that have managed to get over 1200 will have a hard time for then on since winning a game will result is too little elo and loseing a game will be a disaster.
So winning 20 games and then loseing 1 will bring them back to where they started.
And sure that is how elo systems is based and we understand that. but if we started useing a 1200+ elo bot the balance and fun factor for the more experienced CFers would be better since then fake accs will then not be so easy to boost with on the same way if most of the upper elo people dont smash the 900 players all the time. Will add in some other elements into CF games, and just as DotA & LTD have several bots with difrent versions and elo limits, You even had DIHL&LIHL for a wihle.

So to put up a CF game with 1200+ elo would be a step in the right way.

Special notes: I talked this over with most of the CFers I know and they all seems to like the idea (even those that currently have lower then 1200) So I think I have the suport for this idea from Clan fc @ Northrend. I'm not sure about the GN for the bot yet. Maybe something like:
[ENT] Castle Fight elo! #xx / [ENT] Castle Fight 1200+ #xx, I like the elo one better but might be cunfuseing without the number and from what I've seen the number will be needed.

Ofc the limit itself might be moved 1100-1200 but used the 1200 limit in the text and thats what I've been asking people aswell.
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Re: Autohost [Castle Fight] elo Bot

Postby warcrafttb » Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:54 pm

I been playing Castle fight for several years. I played with people of all skill level. I am personally on the high end, at least on terms of elo.

I think that making a 1200+ bot for Castle Fight, as we have in Legion TD, is a GOOD IDEA.

Why?. Because if you know how legion TD bot works, you understand that it would also work on Castle Fight.

The 1200+ bot give a more challenging game for the people that play on that league. Also gives a goal for lower elo players to get better so they can play on the 1200+ bot. So its all positive, the pros play on both leagues, and get more challenge playing on the high end bot. We will see more games of pros vs pros also. Now we see a lot of pros stacking teams playing versus lower elo teams, and they refuse to play vs higher opponents, since there is no incentive in doing so, since they could lose elo. Playing in the 1200+ bot means your are on the big league so thats the incentive, like happens on Legion TD. It means you are playing on the highest level.

The lower elo players get a goal to get better and hit the 1200 elo mark, to get on the big league. So they get better on the game!.

The normal bot would finish off with more people, of all skill level, playing in a higher level. So you will get better games there also.

Its a GOOD IDEA!. Not sure why it isnt implemented yet!!.

I agree on making a Castle Fight 1200+ bot!!!.
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Re: Autohost [Castle Fight] elo Bot

Postby SirSandgroper » Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:30 pm

Great Idea JediMaster and it's certainly long over-due. I've played a fair bit of Legion TD Mega on the ENT hosted bots too, aswell as 'Castle Fight! #' (3v3) on ENT hosted bots and on Legion I've aspired in the past to reach the 1200 mark just to be able to participate in the 1200+ hosted LTD Mega games. The same scenario would present for CF and may increase map participation for reasons the guys above say, but also gives great incentive to newbies to improve to reach towards that and more incentive for experienced players to avoid bashing those newbies and playing more often fellow experienced players of more equal level (ELO rating-wise anyway). The Castle Fight community has slowly dwindled the recent year or so and the stagnation of the map and hosting style hasn't helped. I truly believe this over-due idea may help re-incentivise old-pros and encourage new players alike, to keep at it. :)

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Re: Autohost [Castle Fight] elo Bot

Postby E5Pepe » Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:41 pm

Hello!

I think it's an excellent idea to make a dedicated bot for experienced players. I just played a game against low-level ELO players and lost more or less 20 points, while I won a lot of consecutive games before that which game me some low points... I find this kinda unbalanced, to be honest, mainly when some people who fall in my team doesn't know the game very well but that's not the worst part -> worse of everything is that some won't listen, won't even do teamwork and trolls around. Nobody likes people like that, and I even see some players leave because of them.

For this reason, I totally support a bot which is restricted for higher-level players :)

Hope this is fully implemented.

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Re: Autohost [Castle Fight] elo Bot

Postby GameHouse » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:48 pm

Pretty good idea ^_^

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Re: Autohost [Castle Fight] elo Bot

Postby Flyvehat » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:52 pm

Hello. I support the "ranked" castle fight! 3v3
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Re: Autohost [Castle Fight] elo Bot

Postby HazarDous » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:44 am

Denied due to lack of input.

Will take more than 6 vouching players to implement such a feature.


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