New LoD Mode

[CheW]

Change the SD to MD. Easy and simple way to balance the game aside from drastic measures.

[Squanto]

Change the SD to MD. Easy and simple way to balance the game aside from drastic measures.

Will this suggestion actually be taken seriously now that a staff member is fronting the conversation? I agree wholeheartedly with the proposal.

[HazarDous]

Will this suggestion actually be taken seriously now that a staff member is fronting the conversation? I agree wholeheartedly with the proposal.

It is not about who suggests something, but rather whether the suggestion receives favourable feedback from those who play the map.

[Squanto]

The suggestion was shot down here after receiving mostly positive/indifferent feedback, albeit from a small sample size:

viewtopic.php?f=43&t=106072

Also, the suggestion was declined on the basis of adding another bot, rather than changing the mode of the current bot. However, I think closing the conversation on the basis of "LoD will never be fair" or anything to that liking should be avoided in this situation so the community who actually play the game can progress with constructive dialogue.

[CheW]

This map mode makes LoD fair as both teams have access to the same draft pools. It also adds in a little strategy as you can draft to counter what you think other people are going to get. The only thing this changes is that instead of 10 different drafts there are 5 drafts and each team has one.

[Squanto]

This map mode makes LoD fair as both teams have access to the same draft pools. It also adds in a little strategy as you can draft to counter what you think other people are going to get. The only thing this changes is that instead of 10 different drafts there are 5 drafts and each team has one.

I think one of the chief arguments against implementing this change would be "Well if you have two people with rearm+phantasm it will dilute the game-play because each game will boil down to image wars."

I don't necessarily find this to be true. There are many instances you can beat rearm+phantasm if you know prior to the draft that it will be in play.

1) Ranged AoE DPS builds (ex: strafe, flak cannons, grow, caustic, global tp and bt) not only counter the image push because of mass aoe dps output but also allow for fast pushing and limit early farm from images... beat the image push before it gets too fat

2) Mass globals -- Can't push if you're always dead when you TP to a lane

3) Rearm + Counter spells -- A change to the game mode would allow for new combos to blossom in instances where they would ordinarily be ineffective. Rearm + Mind Control is an example of this. In a normal game it would be hardly effective if there are no mass images + summons builds but when you know the enemy will pick Rearm + Phantasm it absolutely tears apart that build because it makes controlled images marginally stronger and does not allow for strong rax pushes by 10 images+. Also severely swings the favor of a team fight to your side if you used in the proper situations

Just to name a few strategies...

[CheW]

I really don't care if it dilutes the game with rearm phant, as at least it will be rearm phant for both teams. And there are plenty of rearm combos that can be picked that counter rearm phant

[Burnt]

Let's try this!

[ren]

support

[W1nn4r]

!saport

too meni pussys thes days nned mega drafts for gege )))

[Desire]

Support

Mmk

[TrueLies]

I'm for it as well!

[Prcko]

This guy is right, im tired of having 3 relocate-ball in each team , or 3 mc zeus etc.
Mirror draft best mode for LOD .

And aj saport dis sugeščn, mejk it hepn pliz.

[Sylvanas]

Never tried, but I still think it sounds boring as hell.

Let's try this!

!saport

too meni pussys thes days nned mega drafts for gege )))

This guy is right, im tired of having 3 relocate-ball in each team , or 3 mc zeus etc.
Mirror draft best mode for LOD .

And aj saport dis sugeščn, mejk it hepn pliz.

Totally different people.

[CheW]

Never tried, but I still think it sounds boring as hell.

Let's try this!

!saport

too meni pussys thes days nned mega drafts for gege )))

This guy is right, im tired of having 3 relocate-ball in each team , or 3 mc zeus etc.
Mirror draft best mode for LOD .

And aj saport dis sugeščn, mejk it hepn pliz.

Totally different people.

At least 2 different people.

The only difference between MD and SD is that each team gets same drafts. Still same amount of heroes to pick from and skills, just instead of each player getting a unique draft players 1/6 2/7 3/8 4/9 5/10 share the same drafts (they can still pick differently)