LOD fair game solution

[Lord-Miles]

How many LoD games are generally played at once?

I'm assuming actual numbers are inaccurate given 1.28 fucking it up?

at this its really bad 2-3 games running at same time , before it was like 7-10 games , sometimes even more

this new patch fucked up all really.

[ffantomas]

Real low-skilled pagers are very few (2-3). I very rarely see when the game collapses due to a low-skilled player.

Even if you have a low-skilled player on the team and the opponent has megakills, then by killing him with the whole team you get a lot of money and experience and the game is Aligned.
also if in you team you have low elo player - you will take more elo if you win.So really good players ask me to play me in their team

But I very often, almost every second game I see as another "high elo player" begins to go crazy, abuse his teammates and throw playing. A lot of shitty "high elo players" has appeared recently in LOD. And for them you need a new bot???

>How many LoD games are generally played at once?
Before the patch in the morning hours of the game you can wait half an hour until filled. Only in the evening filling is fast.

this game not needed second bot.

> before it was like 7-10 games
this is lie.i never seen that. 3-4 maximum

[Lord-Miles]

Real low-skilled pagers are very few (2-3). I very rarely see when the game collapses due to a low-skilled player.

Even if you have a low-skilled player on the team and the opponent has megakills, then by killing him with the whole team you get a lot of money and experience and the game is Aligned.
also if in you team you have low elo player - you will take more elo if you win.So really good players ask me to play me in their team

But I very often, almost every second game I see as another "high elo player" begins to go crazy, abuse his teammates and throw playing. A lot of shitty "high elo players" has appeared recently in LOD. And for them you need a new bot???

>How many LoD games are generally played at once?
Before the patch in the morning hours of the game you can wait half an hour until filled. Only in the evening filling is fast.

this game not needed second bot.

> before it was like 7-10 games
this is lie.i never seen that. 3-4 maximum

3-4 maximum ? I am sure you dont even know how to check live games running man , dont please talk shits, i personally have seen more than 8 lod games runnning at the same time and as i said once again sometimes its even more , i believe you know there is diff timezones which means for you is morning for them is evening or late night.

We know you dont wanna +1100 or 1200 elo bot coz u will never join there , but we do.

I am tired playing with players like you @Ffantomas , as i said before its chaos playing games with peoples like you and the others on the same level.

[Squanto]

Stay on topic please. Stop person insults or I will start to issue warnings/bans.

[ffantomas]

>We know you dont wanna +1100 or 1200 elo bot coz u will never join there , but we do.

i can make any High ELO account and play any games.this is not matter for me. but if you will create new bot many really good players(not like you) will throw play this game.

[Squanto]

Is the administrative team's gripe with the idea of making a second bot in general, or just a second bot specific to ELO rankings? If it's the latter I could understand both sides of the argument but if not I think a second bot could be worthwhile as long as it's set to a different game mode.

A bot with mirror draft mode, for example, could provide a lot more balance to games by virtue of affording both Scourge and Sentinel a fairly even draft pool. Additionally, it could beckon higher quality players without necessarily segmenting the population by ELO as upper echelon players would recognize some of the advantages of this mode as it pertains to quality of play. In that sense, both players and administrators could remain satisfied because the bot wouldn't necessarily encouraging smurf accounts or other shenanigans that the admin team is generally opposed to but it would also give players the extra competitive edge that they seek in games.

Any thoughts?

[TrueLies]

@Squanto

Mirror draft mode was suggested about month ago (https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=106072) and declined.
It seems there is no way they will create another bot for any reason because average number of LOD games/hour is too low.

Maybe adding a vote option in lobby could solve the problem, players would type something like !vsd or !vmd and vote for mode they would like to play. Once the countdown starts mode with most votes would be selected and applied in game.

[Squanto]

@Squanto

Mirror draft mode was suggested about month ago (https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=106072) and declined.
It seems there is no way they will create another bot for any reason because average number of LOD games/hour is too low.

Maybe adding a vote option in lobby could solve the problem, players would type something like !vsd or !vmd and vote for mode they would like to play. Once the countdown starts mode with most votes would be selected and applied in game.

Seems like that suggestion was shot down simply because of the notion:

"LoD's not balanced, so don't try."

Bringing forms of administrative oversight to the game would make it more balanced and enjoyable, even regular DotA isn't necessarily fair or balanced but yet the team is open to suggestions as far as improving gameplay is concerned. Rather than encouraging dialogue, ideas to improve in-game experiences are consistently met with resistance or shot down. It took far too many attempts to get Manabreak banned on melee heroes, however once the combination was banned far more games became balanced. There's noticeable improvement in the experience. Rather than building on precedents such as that, laudable ideas are shut down before they gain traction, even if a large portion of the community is in favor of it. I guess the opinion of someone who isn't even an active player in the community is more important than the majority of those who actually play the game consistently? Excluding a few admins, most don't even touch LoD, so why not let the players who actually play decide changes that affect their experience?

[HazarDous]

Discussion kinda went off-topic.

At the moment, this is a no. Start a discussion in the Custom Games forum about LoD HR bot. If there's enough support, then post a suggestion.

However, looks like not enough players. Not a good time with 1.28 anyway to suggest.

Denied.