Dota v6.83 beta by IceFrog

[kakoo]

Please make new dota map non em. ty

[tO_xiC]

New map update would be bring something fresh to this game. With Non-em modes, its more challenging and more fun than em mode.

[NumberOneStunna]

!support - but let's wait until final (non-beta) version is out.

[Brando]

non-em pls

[abi]

no-em !!

[fck_gooks]

I do NOT support updating this to non em only. EM mode is the most popular dota mode. Loads more people play it. Just pull up the game count to prove my point, the numbers don't lie. This suggestion has been made and denied before. If the bugs have been resolved just update all the games, or not at all. Simple enough.

[nabo.]

I do NOT support updating this to non em only. EM mode is the most popular dota mode. Loads more people play it. Just pull up the game count to prove my point, the numbers don't lie. This suggestion has been made and denied before. If the bugs have been resolved just update all the games, or not at all. Simple enough.

Go try the map and then argue about balance.

[fck_gooks]

Go try the map and then argue about balance.

My post does not even have that word in it. Did you even read it?

[nabo.]

So, you want to play a game with bad balancing. Ok.

If the public really likes em, we can make current version stay em and new version non-em.

I am fine with that. But, thinking run-long, if you want the overall quality of games to be higher with better players, hosting only non-em is a good idea.

[NumberOneStunna]

Nabo is 200% right. I also am OK with keeping the old map for EM games, as EM have historically been popular, irrespective of whether they SHOULD be popular. However, EM is not feasible with the new map.

[Brando]

I suggest that maelstrom and its upgrade to work with other orbs such as lifesteal and skadi, BUT override when the orb is proc'd, as it does in DOTA 2. I think this will help heroes such as medusa alchemist and lifestealer ect.. item builds to expand and make the game more interesting. Also, for skadi and lifesteal to stack like in DOTA 2. I think this would be a great add on and i would really enjoy it =]

[nabo.]

@Brando

Orbs cannot stack on wc3. It is just impossible on wc3 engine.

Perhaps changing maelstorm's property is a good idea. Even though medusa is a hero I dislike to play the most due to her passive nature, she is quite tanky and strong carry, although she is heavily based on her farm and items. Naix and alchemist are pretty strong already with good farming potential imo.

@Michelle

You can read the changelog from 6.81d to 6.83c for dota2.

There should be a full changelog when a stable full version is updated. Once it is out, I can explain more if needed.

[CuandoQuieras]

I support non-em. I believe that this update will bring more players to ap games and an update is long over due . Thanks go to IceFrog for finally coming out with an official update (even if only beta at this point) Happy gaming everyone!

[F-Train]

Orbs cannot stack on wc3. It is just impossible on wc3 engine.

Well guess what, burning spears + frostmourne + fury swipes + geostrike + skadi + mask + diffusal + orb of venom all stack together in lod. that means it is possible.

[nabo.]

Well guess what, burning spears + frostmourne + fury swipes + geostrike + skadi + mask + diffusal + orb of venom all stack together in lod. that means it is possible.

Prob because they are no longer "orbs".....