[LTD] Ban Delays when sending on 1200+ bot

[Rapporter]

You can also delay to leak slower send or not.

But isn't that what is causing the additional and intentional clog?

Partially. It wont clog if units are leaked at different times (ex. depends on how fast your towers clear/hold wave + whether all build delays or not). Big units with high collision size such as demons, krakens, behamoths, etc cause clogging also = big issue we cannot fix.

Then how about phrasing the rule, as I suggested alternatively:

If you have a delay during a round, where your team sends, and you team clogs, then you will be banned for clogging.

(rephrase it as you seem fit)

That way, delays are allowed, the slow-leakers, who wont clog are not caught in this rule-adjustment, still are ok to go. But the ones, who are solely abusing it to leak 80+ and win by clogging extra extra hard, will still get punished.

So it would basically be handled as the going below 50% recommended value. If you don't clog, nobody cares. But as soon as you clog and you are below 50% recommended value, you get banned.

Does that sound like a fair compromise?

[nabo.]

I will wait for poll results.

As for clog, you may be interested in this topic: https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=65161

[Mercy]

As far as it goes,

Delays should be banned if they are built the level that is sent. If they are built prior to it, fine and dandy.

[SLSGuennter]

Cause delays serve no purpose but clogging. Delays can generally serve as getting some more time, when you wanna send at a later level. But at the level you are sending for it serves no other purpose but clogging and thus should be forbidden. "Do not intentionally clog". The outcome of delays, when you send (and your opponents too), is pretty obvious. You clog, and that _IS_ intentional.

No!

Building delay, will not result in harder clog all in all.
If you build delay, units need some more time to get to mid, but the number of leaked units gets influenced only in a little way.

Leaking slower is not the same like clogging.
Building (e.g.) Hades/Hydra/... and other units with high delay-potential also results in slower leak, but not in more clog.

[RadiantCrystal]

This has been around for almost 3 weeks, I think there shouldn't be any changes to this rule.

@nabo.

[nabo.]

@RadiantCrystal

Will depend whether 3.41c map can replace original 3.41 map.

[nabo.]

@Rapporter

Wont be needing this with the new map. Will consider banning all if not most delays if we have to revert and use the original map, but seeing how I am not getting complaints the past 3 days map being autohosted, I will assume the map is pretty stable.