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Forfeit rule

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:42 am
by Essenze
I am tired of losing games for no reason and due to forfeit.
I suggest we put it as 5 needed in order to forfeit and not 4 because sometimes one person writes it and the 3 others do it just because they lost a team fight or lost ONE set of racks. If you have dota experience, comebacks are always possible. At least for me, I always have hope. But some people clearly don't and are always ready to forfeit which is lame.

Re: Forfeit rule

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:48 am
by IWinIfyoulose
Its good you not need all 5 somtimes. Pretty many games when the other team fountainfarm or when its clearly over and team not want to ff.

Re: Forfeit rule

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:59 am
by Essenze
Sometimes it's quite obvious that the game should be forfeited but sometimes it's ridiculous and without a decent reason. Example lose multiple team fights, someone writes !ff and the 3 others do it too while I am super fed with a high score and have a good chance of carrying the team to the win. Most people who writes !ff immediately are super noobs and/or want to lose on purpose.

Re: Forfeit rule

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:03 pm
by Essenze
As you can tell, i'm pretty upset about that because i've had 20-6 slark score and still managed to lose due to stupid FF from teamates who only fed and because we lost a team fight that costed us bottom rax.

Re: DotA Forfeit rule

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:48 pm
by wTc[JediMaster]
@Alina
maybe add dota in the topic :)?
(all this purple makes it look like a blog)
Well some players might not bother to do a comeback and rather just rmk in another game. I can understand the feeling of people "abandoning the ship" But if your 4 team8s dont wanna play anymore isnt it better to !ff then just RQ the game?

Re: Forfeit rule

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:59 pm
by Albi
This makes no sense.

Re: Forfeit rule

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:22 pm
by Essenze
Albi wrote:This makes no sense.


How? Very simple actually.
When you're owning and your team decide to ff because you lost a rax or a team fight. Haven't happened to you yet?

Re: DotA Forfeit rule

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:23 pm
by Essenze
wTc[JediMaster] wrote:@Alina
maybe add dota in the topic :)?
(all this purple makes it look like a blog)
Well some players might not bother to do a comeback and rather just rmk in another game. I can understand the feeling of people "abandoning the ship" But if your 4 team8s dont wanna play anymore isnt it better to !ff then just RQ the game?


My point is i'm not against FF itself, I just want it to require 5 people instead of 4.

Re: Forfeit rule

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:29 pm
by Burnt
does this happen every other game or something? is there a sample replay?

Re: Forfeit rule

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:31 pm
by Albi
Alina wrote:
Albi wrote:This makes no sense.


How? Very simple actually.
When you're owning and your team decide to ff because you lost a rax or a team fight. Haven't happened to you yet?


I'd report for FF abuse

Re: Forfeit rule

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:06 pm
by Essenze
Albi wrote:
Alina wrote:
Albi wrote:This makes no sense.


How? Very simple actually.
When you're owning and your team decide to ff because you lost a rax or a team fight. Haven't happened to you yet?


I'd report for FF abuse


I don't know why you're not taking me seriously, must of not happened much to you.

Re: Forfeit rule

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:36 pm
by Astros
The idea is:

1) It doesn't happen much.
2) If four players on your team are all willing to FF, then that's the majority. They shouldn't have to stick around because someone stubborn wants to prolong the game.

This rarely happens. Do you mind linking the game in which you're 20-6 with Slark?

Re: Forfeit rule

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:55 pm
by Essenze
chineseeagle wrote:The idea is:

1) It doesn't happen much.
2) If four players on your team are all willing to FF, then that's the majority. They shouldn't have to stick around because someone stubborn wants to prolong the game.

This rarely happens. Do you mind linking the game in which you're 20-6 with Slark?


This has nothing to do with being stubborn. Losing one rax doesn't mean the game is over and that you should ff. That's the point.
People give up over nothing.

Re: Forfeit rule

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:39 pm
by Astros
Alina wrote:
chineseeagle wrote:The idea is:

1) It doesn't happen much.
2) If four players on your team are all willing to FF, then that's the majority. They shouldn't have to stick around because someone stubborn wants to prolong the game.

This rarely happens. Do you mind linking the game in which you're 20-6 with Slark?


This has nothing to do with being stubborn. Losing one rax doesn't mean the game is over and that you should ff. That's the point.
People give up over nothing.


Link the game. Every game is different. Four of your teammates thought the game was over. That's an 80% rate. Again, link the game or you're just looking for more stuff to complain about.

Re: Forfeit rule

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:40 pm
by Dhamma
While I do understand where you are coming from, I do not agree with you suggestion.

From my experience this happens very rarely. Only 1 - 3 times, if i were to guess.

If my team is losing and are trying to !ff, I do my best to communicate with them, and reassure that we can win. More often than not, it quickly descends into begging. :lol: But usually works.


But cases when team genuinely losing and some dipsh*t refusing to !ff, it can be rather helpful