Hey guys, i would like to suggest the following, if you have the necessary resources(bots):
FIRST: add 0000 - 1100 / 1100 - 1300 / 1300 - 9999ELO bots. This would require 2 new bots. Splitting into 3 is necessary because if we do the FIRST, we cant just make 0000 -1100 and open up 1100 to the 1200 - 9999.
SECOND: also the making the 0000 - 1100 would recreate the literal hellhole-shithole, what now the "mega bot" is, making almost impossible to leave for the new players, cause it would contain every smurf/ troll/ mentally challenged/ casual player - who just play casual and wont really ding in deep into the game. So further suggestion would be adding a gamecount, as an ELO count for high, lets say 50 and make the bots as 0 - 50 games / 50 games and 1000 ELO to 1200ELO(keeping the ongoing system) etc.. So you have at least, general knowledge of the game. All this because momentarily the 0000 - 1199 is this hellhole which has the biggest base, and is played by 1200+ players too, so don't come with get 1200ELO, boi and your problem will be solved.
PROBLEMS WITH THE "MEGABOT":
- ELO gap usually ranges from 800-900 1100-1400 making it freaking unbalanced 50% of the games are +3 - 27, with 1 team rolling over the other, 30% "elobalanced" again having some complete beginners with 1300ELO in a team, yeah right.. and 20% both teams are okey, sometimes the average ELO hits 1100+ in both teams, wonderful games.
- Giving base 1000ELO means the 600ELO guy, with a smurf and the 1700ELO guy with a smurf are on the same level, which is, i really hope i dont have to argue, not normal.
- The wonderful times when a 800/700/600 joins a team, everybody else leaves, then after 5 minutes it somehow fills with a team with maybe 1000 avg. ELO and +- 10 games, so yeah 10 minutes of wonderful game ending around 10.
The main idea is to fix the problems with the mega bot, my idea is just a suggestion.
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Re: NEW BOT
1) We dont have the ressources for this as you can see on the amount of offline bots.
2) This would make it impossible for many people to play with friends if they arent on the same ELO range
3) It would split up the community a lot.
4) The smurfing issue and skill level issue isnt solved with that at all, people would actually smurf even more as they are forced to play on a certain bot.
2) This would make it impossible for many people to play with friends if they arent on the same ELO range
3) It would split up the community a lot.
4) The smurfing issue and skill level issue isnt solved with that at all, people would actually smurf even more as they are forced to play on a certain bot.
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Re: NEW BOT
1) Okey. The argument is over here but,
2) I can't play with my 1200ELO friend with my 1100ELO on high, same happens in dota games with and every other, how is this different with the one you are stating? + impossible? is gaining ELO or 50 games impossible, what? If they want to play together the 1 with the "better account" can anytime register a new and enter the LOW-BOT, the worst player can ??LEARN?? the game to join the MIDDLE-BOT??
3) i'm inclined to say, not knowing the statistics tho, that there are more players 1000+ and players who would love to have a better "mega game" the newcomers/trolls etc.etc.etc. mentioned above, could just have fun in the above mentioned "hellhole/LOW-BOT". Don't really see a split in community.
4) Having to play 50 games in almost nightmaresish games, i doubt most high ELO players gonna do it, or if they do, it will take them some time, not just a 10 second to register a new account. For the low ELO players they cant smurf cause they cant join the "midle" skill game, i seriously don't see what you trying to say here, AND if they "manage" to breach into middle, hell yeah, they have earnt it thats the point. The skill level is solved, cause on 1100 - 1300 only 1100 minimum gonna play with already a good understanding of the game, who can get and implement every tip from a high elo player. Not having to explain everything on every level,missing out send/build even. I would just rather play with 2 accounts in the same game.
2) I can't play with my 1200ELO friend with my 1100ELO on high, same happens in dota games with and every other, how is this different with the one you are stating? + impossible? is gaining ELO or 50 games impossible, what? If they want to play together the 1 with the "better account" can anytime register a new and enter the LOW-BOT, the worst player can ??LEARN?? the game to join the MIDDLE-BOT??
3) i'm inclined to say, not knowing the statistics tho, that there are more players 1000+ and players who would love to have a better "mega game" the newcomers/trolls etc.etc.etc. mentioned above, could just have fun in the above mentioned "hellhole/LOW-BOT". Don't really see a split in community.
4) Having to play 50 games in almost nightmaresish games, i doubt most high ELO players gonna do it, or if they do, it will take them some time, not just a 10 second to register a new account. For the low ELO players they cant smurf cause they cant join the "midle" skill game, i seriously don't see what you trying to say here, AND if they "manage" to breach into middle, hell yeah, they have earnt it thats the point. The skill level is solved, cause on 1100 - 1300 only 1100 minimum gonna play with already a good understanding of the game, who can get and implement every tip from a high elo player. Not having to explain everything on every level,missing out send/build even. I would just rather play with 2 accounts in the same game.
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Suggestion denied, please refer to Jabba41's post.
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