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HR Legion

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:24 am
by iG0D
REMOVE THE AUTO-BALANCE PLEASE!!!!

Re: HR Legion

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:02 am
by uakf.b
The point of autobalancing is to maximize fairness in games. Why do you want it removed?

Re: HR Legion

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:27 am
by iG0D
it removes well coordinated team work and adds chaos... i rather have my team that i know can do what needs to be done and save when they need to save or when to up king then some random person who thinks they can play... plus if i wanna play my friends it will be on a priv bot not in a pub game with stats

Re: HR Legion

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:05 pm
by cyberpunk
iG0D wrote:plus if i wanna play my friends it will be on a priv bot not in a pub game with stats
Do you realize others players are able to join? HR bot is not a 100% "priv" bot. The bot is private related on ELO. Meh, I don't get it. Based on what you said, I think you want the auto-balance to ENT18 because this bot is 100% pub game with stats.

Re: HR Legion

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:13 pm
by Raizen
why have autobalance at HR legion and don't have autobalance at the regular legion? ;o

Re: HR Legion

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:21 pm
by cyberpunk
Raizen wrote:why have autobalance at HR legion and don't have autobalance at the regular legion? ;o
Because some players are mates and they wants to play together. :3

Re: HR Legion

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:32 pm
by uakf.b
Raizen wrote:why have autobalance at HR legion and don't have autobalance at the regular legion? ;o

Are you asking this, or are you asking the converse? For the converse (which this thread is arguing) supersexyy made a good post: viewtopic.php?f=27&p=18211#p18211

Re: HR Legion

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:44 pm
by Raizen
uakf.b wrote:
Raizen wrote:why have autobalance at HR legion and don't have autobalance at the regular legion? ;o

Are you asking this, or are you asking the converse? For the converse (which this thread is arguing) supersexyy made a good post: viewtopic.php?f=27&p=18211#p18211

oh
i was just asking :P
I had not formed an opinion on the subject when i made that post.
yeah supersexxy made a good post :P

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I would like to say what i think

1)HR legion
But since the HR they aren't noobs like supersexxy said:
supersexyy wrote:The whole point of HR is that there aren't any 'noobs' and that they can adopt any strategy.

whats is the problem with stack team to play with friends? Since no one is noob, stack team dont means the game will be unfair.

2)Regular legion
The autobalance at the regular game and not at the HR make more sense to have a balance match. Example:
team 1 (Stacking with pro friends) + team 2 (noobs who don't even know how to heal) = noob slaugther
This game will probably result at a low elo at victory for team 1.
The balance at that kind of game lies at the game result and not at the game itself. So i think the game is balance at someway.

3)Regular legion
BUT, if make the "regular legion (ent18)" with autobalance, the balance will lies at luck to not get a noob team mate.

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So I think the suffle should be optional at both legions. Like !votebalance (something like 50% of votes).

Re: HR Legion

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:06 pm
by uakf.b
The problem isn't noobs: autobalance will try to maximize fairness by putting noobs on both teams. The problem is people who want to play with each other. This is why we have special bots to host DotA auto-balanced games. !votebalance might be worth trying out though.

For HR games in general (not just ltd), while there are no players new to the game (hopefully), there are still different skill levels. Autobalancing makes the game more fun/fair by balancing the game based on ELO scores.

Re: HR Legion

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:41 pm
by iG0D
why not take it out till we want it in??? I mean give the people what they want lol

Re: HR Legion

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:47 am
by Raizen
uakf.b wrote: !votebalance might be worth trying out though.

i had a ideia to use the "!votebalance". Many people will not know that exist and will not type it...

BUT, before the game start, the bot could automatically ask for it
Example:
The game is full !!! And before start the 10 seconds CD to begin the game... the bot will ask for the players (for like 15 seconds):
you want to shuffle the players to autobalance? type !yes to shuffle. the vote end in 15 seconds

if something like 50%/60% agree the bot will shuffle. If the person dont answer will count as "!no"
:P

Re: HR Legion

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:21 pm
by Sn00be
I hate to say it, but im with Igod

We are 3 m8s that play LTD.
We like to play HR because we can win like 5 elo on normal games.
But the balance is going to screw us on HR so we dont even bother to join a empty hr and wait how long it takes to get it filled.

Hr games are never played,
isn't it possible to get a trail run on it?
or even make 2 diffrent HR games, one with auto balance, and one for teams.

Its kinda the same "high elo" guys around in the ent ltd, and i think we all agree we need to play hr games to win elo.
Im not proud to say it, but i play ent because of the stats, but if me and my m8s get a bit higher elo, we can win 0,
and that would make us kinda play bad, or even quit ltd.

Re: HR Legion

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:28 pm
by uakf.b
HR games are auto-balanced to make them more fun so that teams are not stacked. This will not change.