For the awaiting section.

[NutzSucksHard]

Hi, there's my statement

You should not put your ban request there has admin mod (in Awaiting). How could ent commnunities give their opinion or point, like people wanting to be a staff member (here is one) I can't write anything in that section, and I think it's unfair that mod got a ''special place for themself''. You should use this section when admin decision is not on an unanimity (all with the same answer). Like (exemple) nz.death say he mh, agreement say no, cyber say yes, kaisero say no etc. (now you put it in awaiting so there you will have time to make your decision and debate over the subject). Otherwise, I think it's better that admin / mod put a request like all other member of the ent community over putting/transfering it directly in the awaiting. Just giving my personel suggestion the use of it. It is not bad to put there, even usefull, but put it when all not sure OR when it been over like five day with no answer.

Thank you for the attention

Nutz-

[Nz.Death]

That section is once a admin / Mod has review a ban request for maphacking and they have confirmed it. With all of our cases on maphacker's it take's 2 admins to confirm it before it is moved to processed, That way once it is moved into "awaiting confirmation" its viewed alot faster to remove maphackers from our community.

I dont see why everyone needs to put a comment on a post about a maphacker , If that person think's they are not guilty of it then we have the "Ban Appeal" section.

We had talks about the "awaiting confirmation" section for about 2 weeks before it was put there, The way it works now was the best way we could see possible.

What reason would people need to comment on a maphack ban request? You can always PM admins/game mod's if you want to say something about the ban.

[NutzSucksHard]

But has I said, why your maphacker get more importance then other one? No sens, like mine, it will get longer to get process cause your's will pass first, being in the awaiting section. I'am 125% sure that you waited 2 week, thought about it, no lie. But it's not a reason to take my critisism like this, seems you can't get comment over what is going on the forum. Just giving a suggestion here / Comment.

A question for you; before you become a mod, did you like to help for mh? Yes. So do I.

It's called Awaiting section. Not the MapHacker section. So Item destruction, afk griefing, all request in pending, should go there, not only your mh to get process faster.. You should show the exemple. Plus, personally, when a mod/admin post a request, they should be two more mod/admin checking it. So it's the requester (whoever rank he's) and two mod/admin confirming it. But thats is an other point and not the subject I wanna deblate on. I don't wanna change ENT and the way it get build/run, this is a huge community and it's not me that started it. I'm just giving fresh idea, and perfectioning stuff implanted in here. Sometime people giving idea that others will never think about it. That's why I made this topics.

I'm trying to become a game moderators, not gonna lie, and giving my opinion down here, suggestion and how I see the stuff, is a part of what a futur mod should do. Thanks for your time, maybe I'am all wrong, maybe not.

On that, for here, it's goodnight!

Nutz-

[uakf.b]

I think it makes sense. We can keep the awaiting admin confirmation section, but allow normal users to post in it in case something is wrong.

[Nz.Death]

I completely agree where you are coming from with some of this, But one thing id really like to point out and make sure everyone know's, If a admin / mod posts a ban request it is actually usually the last one that gets reviewed.

If a admin / mod posts a ban request ,Then that admin bans the offender straight away due to what they have seen in the replay. So having another admin confirming is just to make sure no one is wrongfully banned.

There is still alot of ban request's for you to review with maphack etc.. In the ban request section, Or are you more aiming at that you want to review the cases that admins have already confirmed ?

Im kind of lost on why "awaiting another admin" should be open for all to post in. As those topics are just for another admin to review, Otherwise it would be "awaiting approval"

I dont mind to sound rude /mean if it comes across that way.

Have a good day and goodluck when you apply

[Nz.Death]

but allow normal users to post in it in case something is wrong.

Then we run the chance of people spamming it with 3 pages of post's arguing the point, People can always use PM involving the thread's that concern them in "awaiting another admin".

Thats just my view.

[cyberpunk]

Then we run the chance of people spamming it with 3 pages of post's arguing the point,

this explain why you can delete posts.

[NutzSucksHard]

You understanded me wrong ahah.. I don't want this section open to other. Otherwise it's kind of no sens section _._'.

What I mean was : post a regular post (not in the awaiting section) and so everyone (like me) can post a reviews, it's not that I'm aiming yours, it's that I can't aim yours, and it's unfair. At some point.

Now; the use of awaiting should be when admin/mod doesn't seems to agree with each other or being not sure (like three mod arguing) now swap it to awaiting. There's a second reason I'm telling there should be, two mod/admin to agree with ban, even if it's a moderators that started the request. Why? Ok.

Ex; Nz.Death make a request on NutzSucksHard in awaiting (I can't comment on it) like a time kaisero got a ban request, by poisonroot (good memories I know) and Kaisero (sorry if type badly) could give his point and statement to defend himself. But if you go in a awaiting section, I couldn't do it like kaisero does.

Ex2; again Nz versus Nutz : There's a need of Mod1 + Mod2 to confirm it, Nz (Not personal nz, your name just faster to write ^^) shouldn't count has a mod confirmation when doing a request. So when mod1 gave his opinion he can move it to awaiting till mod2 come to Confirm or deny in the awaiting section.

I'm hoping I'am more clear! Not meaning that regular account can post in awaiting, it should stay and be only for mod/admin.

I've found a post that is a good exemple of why awaiting is for and here it is > http://www.clanent.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=4207 (if you post it in the regular section at start then kaisero come and give is review)Kaisero not sure so he put it in awaiting section/or you. Then the other can check it (admin/mod). This is what awaiting should be use for me. On thats, I go hehe

Nutz-

P.S: For me PM is for ask, not dealing with ban request . ImO otherwise your mailbox will get spammed _._ and you can sometime not found important message :/

[Nz.Death]

Well i think the system now run's fine, I might be wrong. There is still alot of other request for people to post opinion's on in Ban request's. As i did say though , You can watch the replays in awaiting another admin and PM which ever admins are posting on it.

[uakf.b]

The awaiting admin confirmation is for maphacking bans to have at least two admins check the ban to minimize mistakes. It's a separate section for organizational purposes. That won't change.

[Nz.Death]

I dont mind doing them lol, But yes they do take alot of time. But once they go into the awaiting admin part then it should already have time's and things to look for.

With replay seeker it makes it so much faster once you know what to look for, Which the first admin that watched it should stated in the ban request.

[NutzSucksHard]

So don't call the section a Awaiting one, But a Maphack section. Definition of Awaiting is really different of the use your doing of it.

Second point, I do like to make the maphack request, even with no fog-click. Ofc, confirming fog are easier and faster, but, I do like to catch map hack or deny it. Still that in awaiting, I can't give my point, by pm? ok, change nothing in the end.

First, to be admin/mod, there's a ask of being active in ban request (I know there's other, but still I would like to do most of maphack, liking it)

Plus, 25 post (I got it but still a pm doesn't count) so.. PMing.. I still touchy with it. But if it's the only solution, I will not get over uakf.b. I was just trying to make this section the ''quick confirm it''. Like, if someone made a request (item destroy in dota) an admin checked it, confirm, moving to awaiting. Then an admin that got not much time to check step by step. Will go in Awaiting and check the admin saying something like : Yes, at 15:00 replay timer, drow kill his tread/lothar/broadsword/bought branch and left. So the admin can jump on this one, fastfoward to 14:55, start watching it at 15:00 speed 1x or 2x. Confirm, move to processed. Clear.

Will be same for maphack. But has I said, mod/admin shouldn't post it d-i-r-e-c-t-l-y inside this section, one of it has 2 view (in the section) and no answer.. Honestly, maybe there would be more if wasn't in the awaiting, people might think - oh it's about to be done- I will not check over there and go for those under. There's a lot of thing that can bring people wrong easly hehe .

But, I will not try to change anything, this website has been created not by me, it's running pretty well, I don't think I will change the way this run, but I can try to make it a bit better, trying to give my opinion, maybe other think the same, but they're shy to come and make a post (not mod/admin in particular). ''They will ban me for it'' ''They will not like me'' etc. So some are keeping the silence. ^^

Most admins / mods avoid the maphacking bans, and take the others first. Map hacking request's are insanely time consuming compared to other requests. So saying it will prioritize higher is pure BS, sorry. but it's the truth.

I do really like to do all maphack if possible (lack of time is reason I can't)

But, actually not being mod, giving me a bit less interest about reporting the fog click or the time of what incident happen, why it is maphack, bla, bla, bla. I still do it, when tired of playing, having free time etc. Being mod will be like oh yea, let's clean these hacker/gameruiner from our server . Still not one >.<

On it, really nice to see everyone's statement.

Nutz-

[Nz.Death]

So don't call the section a Awaiting one, But a Maphack section. Definition of Awaiting is really different of the use your doing of it.

We use this section as it is named "awaiting another admin". Its for confirmed maphack's.

Second point, I do like to make the maphack request, even with no fog-click.

If an admin catches someone hacking (with no fogclick's) then the ban request's stay's in the normal ban "ban request section". It on gets moved to "awaiting another admin" once another admin has reviewed and confirmed.

Like, if someone made a request (item destroy in dota) an admin checked it, confirm, moving to awaiting.

Maphacking is the only requests that need 2 admins to confirm on. If someone item destroys and a admin watch's it and in fact that person did item destroy etc.. They are banned and it moves to process. (not to "awaiting another admin")

But, actually not being mod, giving me a bit less interest about reporting the fog click or the time of what incident happen, why it is maphack, bla, bla, bla. I still do it, when tired of playing, having free time etc. Being mod will be like oh yea, let's clean these hacker/gameruiner from our server

Mod or not, You still have the same goal as us dont you? And just because your not a mod (yet) doesnt mean you should be any less interested in helping catch hacker's.

[NutzSucksHard]

We use this section as it is named "awaiting another admin". Its for confirmed maphack's.

Again, like I said, the mod/admin that post the request shouldn't count has one. Why? If your doing a ban request for item destroying, then you count has a mod, just put in process directly. In any case, the requester should count has a mod even if he is, it should count has a player inside a game doubting on someone plays, reporting someone breaking the rules etc. Thats what I'm tryign to explain. But, you can do as you like ^^ Still suggestion and my opinion. Nothing forcing a change

I underdstand the Maphack now, this is the ONLY one you need two admin, I thought all needed it, (more precision/less error etc) like for flaming, raging, ruining, it can be different for each admin the degrees of a flame. Like for me, it can be ok, and for uakf, it's unacceptable etc. There's a reason why I thought they were TWO admin on EvRY request need -.-. Now I'm fixed.

Still that yea I wanna catch the hacker, less interested? I told it in my apply, did a lot for cash, nothing in back. now I'm doing here, and still not work. I keep going ofc, I did this topic not for fun. Tyring suggestion or helping community. And I saw new coming in (after me), kaisero (good mod, all fine) but he come, and get the place like all goods. Feel kind of desapointing, what is missing on me ahah! There's nothing real much I can say, maybe got more active for a time but...

I don't name anybody, I just see always same mod/admin in banrequest. Other appears once in two week or more.. *slaping hand* I shut up now, it's not the subject. ^^

Thanks for the clarification, really good initiative with the awaiting section.

Nutz-

[Nz.Death]

Apply then dude. He applied and due to his reviewing of ban request's etc.. He was excepted.

Again, like I said, the mod/admin that post the request shouldn't count has one. Why? If your doing a ban request for item destroying, then you count has a mod, just put in process directly.

Why shouldnt we be counted If we post a ban request for someone breaking the rule's ?

We are the one's that review them all anyways and make the ban's, We cannot just ban someone and say they destroyed item's if they didnt, They would post a ban appeal and when it gets reviewed then whoever did it would look stupid and childish.