Change NWU mode back to -sdsm

[Masamune]

@art)y @uakf.b @nabo.
Well @Azog and I have been talking for 30 minutes on Facebook about the new NWU mode. Here's some problems with -arsm and why it should be reverted to -sdsm. Since this map is not DotA, then it will bring severe problems if ELO is implemented with the host of -arsm. I also think the rate of players dropped from -arsm due to -sdsm. .

Here's 5 critical reasons why -arsm is a failure:
1. A team can be full of carries or vice-versa in the short run = bad.
2. You can't tactically outplay or choose heroes who can successfully counter heroes like Shodaime (furion) who deals massive damage/aoe to non-treebreakers. (Pizza's suggestion)
3. If someone gets a bad pick or even a bad repick, it brings a liability to the team because many people are accustomed to a few heroes and roles. The people who repick also get an disadvantage over the other player they lane against. In -sdsm, everyone starts off the same.
4. It's unbalanced because many people are not familiar with the mode and starting builds are unclear for many people. Also, solo laners become severely crippled. Magic Damage laners > Hard damager laners. Semi-carries snowball faster than hard carries. Hence, unbalanced. Hard carries always snowball first if they are fed while semi-carries deal the damage.
5. It gets frustrating/bland after a while playing heroes that don't perform well with others.

EDIT: There's also lagspikes in -arsm for many people. Problem is not resolved yet but it might be due to an issue MuZk is looking at atm.
Also, if ELO comes back with -arsm as its mode = all hope lost for this map

[Azog]

U guys must understand that not all players can play every hero on the game , and that they can get 5 int and lose game hardly, its so much random and unbalanced , they will not leave , yes but the fun will be gone cuz they cant play the hero's they like .

[eGloryKresh]

I vote for arpm! Viva las vegas!!

[Profe]

@kresha why would you want arpm when you know all the pubs will leave when they're 3-5 levels behind us due to the lack of last hits/denies in the game. Also i agree, Change it back to sdsm cause some of the public players are horrible with certain heroes and its sad. Ill tell them a build and they'll just straight up say, "i dont need your help," the end up feeding or losing the game for us.

[Pizza]

If you want it to be more competitive with elo then we need -sdsm back.
-arsm is a to unbalance mode for competitive play, cause if you get bad mix of chars your at a disadvantage at the start already. And if you come with the argument that if your team is skilled with every hero its fine, that only applies if you play against less skilled player or noobs. But lets say your team with skilled players play against the same lvl off skilled players in a tournament or even normal elo match, and there team gets good balance team and you get only int nukers gg. so at this point it should be clear what mode is more fit for competitive play peace.

[eGloryKresh]

No matter what mode u put pubs stay pubs and arrogant. @profe arpm was a jk ( its viva la vega day ) haha

[Pizza]

@eGloryKresh well if elo comes back the pub problem with be solved real quick

[Masamune]

If you want it to be more competitive with elo then we need -sdsm back.
-arsm is a to unbalance mode for competitive play, cause if you get bad mix of chars your at a disadvantage at the start already. And if you come with the argument that if your team is skilled with every hero its fine, that only applies if you play against less skilled player or noobs. But lets say your team with skilled players play against the same lvl off skilled players in a tournament or even normal elo match, and there team gets good balance team and you get only int nukers gg. so at this point it should be clear what mode is more fit for competitive play peace.

@Pizza
Sort of untrue. A bad team comp can lose to a group of pubs like HD/Psycho[AD]/etc. Hence, its in my 5 critical reasons why arsm is shit.

[aRt)Y]

@eGloryKresh @Azog If you guys can't behave, we will just roll everything back to two months ago. Say bye to elo and everything else you wanted/voted.

At least try to act mannered so ENT doesn't have to decide what is the best for the bot.


@uakf.b zz sorry but please change back to -sdsm (dont forget the gamename, please).

[uakf.b]

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