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Civilization wars : random team - equi elos
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:50 pm
by Ugly
Hi guys,
I play a lot @ civ wars = ent16 bot
A lot of players stack = good players play together, often vs bad players
So it makes bad games.
Could you guys do like in some dota games = auto-swap players to create random equi-elo teams ?
A lot of civ players (i know quite them all) think it would be a great thing.
Cheers and ty for your work
Re: Civilization wars : random team - equi elos
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:40 pm
by nabo.
Well, tell these players to come on forum and vote then.
Created a poll for you. You can edit it if youd like.
Re: Civilization wars : random team - equi elos
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:44 am
by RaptorXI
Difficult. 0 games can mean everything, some top players make new accounts because of this VIP bonus, some players are just playing the game for the first time.
Even possible to pretend to be a downloader.
It would for sure scare high elo guys (with currently 1600 elo), because they would get more "bad" players on their team.
But: Train hard, go pro! And lose elo maybe...
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Re: Civilization wars : random team - equi elos
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:02 am
by SnakeDemon2013
I agree with this, I only ever see people stacking.
Re: Civilization wars : random team - equi elos
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:41 am
by RaptorXI
I haven't voted yet, what would the balance be like?
And what if teams were shuffled?
Re: Civilization wars : random team - equi elos
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:01 am
by aRt)Y
A balance would be what a balance means. If the total lobby ELO is 10000, 5k will be on the one team and 5k on the other - and not 7k here and 3k there.
Re: Civilization wars : random team - equi elos
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:11 am
by RaptorXI
So can i push my favourites even more by making an account, make some loses, low enough to join the high guy, then help him (=stacked team again)?
Re: Civilization wars : random team - equi elos
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:25 am
by aRt)Y
If you purposely lose in order to get low elo to boost someone's stats to help him, it's elo manipulation.
Re: Civilization wars : random team - equi elos
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:29 am
by RaptorXI
Fact is: it happends. Do you think i do? Check my stats.
I will vote for shuffle if it will be added to the poll.
Re: Civilization wars : random team - equi elos
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:54 am
by I_kill_satan
Its important thing in civ wars that people can choose their team, because fail of 1 player (of 3) always mean gg even if other two are super pro. In LTD or Dota ur team have a chance to recover even 1 player failed, but in civ wars almost no (of cource if enemy know how to play). It is because fail of even 1 line of 3 feed all enemy players extra hard and dont let allies in ur team chance to have even average income.
Also there are a lot of people in civ wars who think that they are extra pro but in reality they are noobs, and they usually do extra flame and rage their team for they own fail. So i dont want to be in their team only because of "autobalance".
Stack vs noobs team is just patetic move, i dunno who from skilled players intresting in theese type of games. I always try to join civ wars games only when all in lobby have 1k+ rating or avoid to play.
With autobalance probably i stop play civ wars at all cuz i am not intresting in wasting my time in team with noobs or "high ratinged noobs".
Some time ago i stopped play BattleshipsXfire mainly because of autobalance (almost same reasons like there).
So my vote - no.
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Btw topic starter is one of the greatest flamers in civ wars (maybe second one after who.is, if u remember him
) who rage his team extra hard almost every time i saw him in game. Maybe nobody want to play with him anymore and he want to trap players to his team by implementing AB
Re: Civilization wars : random team - equi elos
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:46 am
by eldryan
RaptorXI wrote:Fact is: it happends. Do you think i do? Check my stats.
I will vote for shuffle if it will be added to the poll.
Losing on purpose can be noticed, and reported - the player will be banned his whole IP and if continual throwing for up to 1 year. Most players will make 1k elo smurf, but blanch at the 1 year ban.
Re: Civilization wars : random team - equi elos
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:20 am
by RaptorXI
And those accounts that are being made to boost the elo of a "friend"?
Prove them elo manipulation, it's not forbidden to make new accounts.
Re: Civilization wars : random team - equi elos
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:20 pm
by nabo.
Doesnt the best player usually play mid?
Re: Civilization wars : random team - equi elos
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:49 pm
by RaptorXI
Usually yes, but it's possible to claim lanes so you can "steal" the lane if typed it faster (for example, your loading time is faster than his/her's).
Re: Civilization wars : random team - equi elos
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:41 pm
by nabo.
So, if we have autobal, we gotta make this "lane calling" unwritten rule a rule?