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ENT78 - [ENT] Hero Line Wars RoC version is not official!

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:23 pm
by bi_a_op
HLWRoC 5.3b was the latest map release by Kueken (people believe the cheated 5.5 is, but that is false.) A few years later Kueken gave some random guy called iKill4u@europe permission to create a 6.0 version and gave him the unprotected version of the map as Kueken had quit his projects many years ago. iKill4u did 3 things for the map: new terrain, 2 new heroes (which was already in the game if you did -debug in singeplayer) and gold cost for Shrine indtead of mana. I spoke to iKill4u at the time personally and he told me that the gold cost for spells was just a beta and was likely to be changed but he had to see how it played out in the public. After his release he was rarely on wc3 and the community is now stuck with a broken and untested map. Please use 5.3b for your autohosted HLWRoC game. 6.0 is not finished and it is not official. I know for a fact that people don't play this map and rather use MMH to host their own game using 5.3b.

Thank you.

Re: ENT78 - [ENT] Hero Line Wars RoC is not official!

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:16 am
by RadiantCrystal
I agree the 5.3b is the most classic hero line wars map ever and certainly better than the 6.0 beta and the LITE version
@bi_a_op

Re: ENT78 - [ENT] Hero Line Wars RoC is not official!

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:27 pm
by bi_a_op
I've been trying to reach Kueken with no result. iKill4u is far too fond of his version to agree with me that 5.3b should be hosted instead of 6.0. And unfortunately I don't have any proof that I have spoken to iKill4u personally. But I hope you admins will see the logical choice is to host 5.3b.

Re: ENT78 - [ENT] Hero Line Wars RoC version is not official!

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:30 pm
by RadiantCrystal
Apparently -repick function is bugged in this version, when you try the command -repick to repick heroes it will cancel your current hero and not giving you any choice to pick a new one

Re: ENT78 - [ENT] Hero Line Wars RoC version is not official!

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:14 pm
by bi_a_op
Bugged in 5.3b you mean? Rather play that instead of the untested 6.0 where spells cost gold instead of mana and isn't even official.
Edit: I tested -repick in -ap game in 5.3b. Seems to be working. And I'm sure it works in random modes as I play those the most. Which verison did you play?

Re: ENT78 - [ENT] Hero Line Wars RoC version is not official!

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:57 pm
by nabo.
@bi_a_op

Aside the gold instead of mana spell costs and not being an official map, what else is a problem? Any big glitch/unbalance?

Re: ENT78 - [ENT] Hero Line Wars RoC version is not official!

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:09 pm
by bi_a_op
Not that I know of. I haven't checked it out 100%

Re: ENT78 - [ENT] Hero Line Wars RoC version is not official!

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:57 am
by RadiantCrystal
bi_a_op wrote:Bugged in 5.3b you mean? Rather play that instead of the untested 6.0 where spells cost gold instead of mana and isn't even official.
Edit: I tested -repick in -ap game in 5.3b. Seems to be working. And I'm sure it works in random modes as I play those the most. Which verison did you play?


I played the v6.0 and -repick function does not work in any kind of -ar(.........) mode

Re: ENT78 - [ENT] Hero Line Wars RoC version is not official!

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:58 am
by RadiantCrystal
nabo. wrote:@bi_a_op

Aside the gold instead of mana spell costs and not being an official map, what else is a problem? Any big glitch/unbalance?


-repick function does not work in any combination of random mode

Re: ENT78 - [ENT] Hero Line Wars RoC version is not official!

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:10 pm
by bi_a_op
There we go. Are we changing it to 5.3b? :D

Re: ENT78 - [ENT] Hero Line Wars RoC version is not official!

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 2:03 pm
by nabo.
@radiantcrystal

So which is the better stable version?

Re: ENT78 - [ENT] Hero Line Wars RoC version is not official!

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:45 pm
by bi_a_op
nabo. wrote:@radiantcrystal

So which is the better stable version?


5.3b

Re: ENT78 - [ENT] Hero Line Wars RoC version is not official!

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:28 pm
by RadiantCrystal
nabo. wrote:@radiantcrystal

So which is the better stable version?


As far as I see it the latest enjoyed version was the 5.3B. I think there is no repick bug in that one; however I will play one just to be sure.

Re: ENT78 - [ENT] Hero Line Wars RoC version is not official!

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:03 pm
by aRt)Y
bi_a_op wrote:
nabo. wrote:@radiantcrystal

So which is the better stable version?


5.3b
Roger.

Re: ENT78 - [ENT] Hero Line Wars RoC version is not official!

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:29 am
by RadiantCrystal
I have tested the ar mode in 5.3B and it is not bugged like in V6.0. Attached is the map.
@nabo.