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ent 1v1 autoban is broken

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:53 am
by eldryan
I've been repeatedly banned for games that didn't even start. eg. right now I'm banned for "Legion TD Mega 1v1 #4"... Would suggest fixing this.

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=5683736

Re: ent 1v1 autoban is broken

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:39 am
by Kunert88
did u leave 2-3 seconds before the game starts? If u did , came the load screen of legion td and after was the game over?

Re: ent 1v1 autoban is broken

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:50 am
by PabloHoney
same problem...
also happened that I got DC during game, and autobanex banned me.
I thought, since there's no !ff in 1v1, that leaving is the only legit way to give up.

Re: ent 1v1 autoban is broken

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:47 am
by eldryan
there's also no draw, on that note. however, it does not make much sense that you get "autobanned" for 1v1, considering that you auto-lose if you leave after more then 10 seconds and don't really hurt your team.

Re: ent 1v1 autoban is broken

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:36 am
by SLSGuennter
best way to fiux this is to not lag out during loadscreen ...
if u leave ingame, u wont get banned, u just lose.

Re: ent 1v1 autoban is broken

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:16 pm
by eldryan
Guennter wrote:best way to fiux this is to not lag out during loadscreen ...
if u leave ingame, u wont get banned, u just lose.

I'm banned all the time from 1v1. and if you "lag out" there would be a ping-kick showing, not a "user has disconnected". also, I left it... but way before the load screen started countdown. and regardless, blaming the user for a glitch in ban has obvious flaws.

Re: ent 1v1 autoban is broken

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:36 pm
by SLSGuennter
hm. u get banned in 1v1 if u leave ingame? i only get 1v1 bans if i lag out on loadingscreen, its kinda buggy.

Re: ent 1v1 autoban is broken

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:16 am
by eldryan

Re: ent 1v1 autoban is broken

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 1:28 am
by nabo.
@uakf.b

is !ff disabled on 1v1?

Why dont we just remove ban on 1v1 ltd?

I dont see how leaving in 1v1 matters = only impact you and you lose.

Re: ent 1v1 autoban is broken

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 6:11 am
by eldryan
nabo. wrote:@uakf.b

is !ff disabled on 1v1?

Why dont we just remove ban on 1v1 ltd?

I dont see how leaving in 1v1 matters = only impact you and you lose.

removing autoban is fine with me.

Re: ent 1v1 autoban is broken

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 12:47 am
by uakf.b
It seems like you are leaving in lobby too late during the countdown, and the game is starting before your leave event is being registered. There is not much on the bot that can be changed about this since it is a WC3 thing (using WC3 countdown with disabled cancel button still has problem, since you might cancel right before button becomes disabled and this leads to the same issue). So I think it is reasonable for us to expect players to not leave after 5... or so during countdown.

There did not used to be ban on the 1v1 games. It was added after several people requested it. ELO is not everything, if every game you play the other person leaves without any other penalty than their ELO dropping slightly, that is a huge problem. Keep in mind that they can just register a new account. Thus bans are necessary to control this.

It's clear that OP ruined the game for the other player each time, wasting their time. So ban on OP served a purpose and hopefully OP will be more careful when leaving the game during countdown in the future.

Re: ent 1v1 autoban is broken

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 11:41 am
by eldryan
uakf.b wrote:It's clear that OP ruined the game for the other player each time, wasting their time. So ban on OP served a purpose and hopefully OP will be more careful when leaving the game during countdown in the future.

I wouldn't consider it ruined, as I left maybe 5 seconds after they joined lobby. literally 0 time wasted. they can join next game as fast as any1 will join it, and it would be exactly the same time spent until game starts.

also, didn't leave during countdown, as I said. yes, game isn't all about ELO - but these non-ELO parts aren't related to autoban. I'm not a believer in leaving games because you are weak, but many people aren't confident in their recovering abilities and just leave early to !ff - which they can't do because there is no ff command in 1v1.

the reason why we didn't like no autoban in 1v1 was because people would check their roll and leave early or take a gamble on warriors and lose then leave with no ELO penalty. this isn't really applied on this subject.

Re: ent 1v1 autoban is broken

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 12:37 am
by nabo.
eldryan wrote:the reason why we didn't like no autoban in 1v1 was because people would check their roll and leave early or take a gamble on warriors and lose then leave with no ELO penalty. this isn't really applied on this subject.

Why does it matter if leave due to w/e roll or warrior and leave if you fail? You losing your elo anyway.

Re: ent 1v1 autoban is broken

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 12:39 am
by HealByColor
nabo. wrote:@uakf.b

is !ff disabled on 1v1?

Why dont we just remove ban on 1v1 ltd?

I dont see how leaving in 1v1 matters = only impact you and you lose.


I totally agree with this. Should implement !ff for stay rate so it doesn't lower. I would also lift bans for 1v1 as far as leaving as it does not impact a team. The whole reason for penalty as far as leaving is game ruining in a sense. How can you game ruin a 1v1 by leaving?

Re: ent 1v1 autoban is broken

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 8:03 am
by eldryan
nabo. wrote:You losing your elo anyway.

before, the time you could leave before game is in effect was 2 minutes, so players would just gamble early. however, many players complained and uakf.b changed it to apprx. 10 seconds.