Leavers and the ELO-System

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Leavers and the ELO-System

Postby FTHGN » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:29 pm

As we all know Pub games have a problem with leavers. And if there are leavers its harder to win (ok most times sometimes it’s also easier).

So my suggestion would be if it’s possible to change the elo system the way that u gain +elo of the leaving player devided by the players who are still in your team in game if u win or u loose that amount less if u stay and loose.

For example:

Dota starts with 5 on 5 the Teams would win/loose 10 elo. (but it could also be implemented in other elo games)

Now 1 player of team 1 leaves the game 10/4->2.5 so if Team 1 still wins they gain 12.5 elo or if they loose each one should loose 7.5 elo.
A second player leaves team 1 ->20/3->6.6 elo +-

Ok maybe it should be restricted on only the 10 devided by staying players if its implemented. So that you can't gain +elo if u loose. Maybe something like:

(start players - leaving players team 1 + leaving players team 2)*elo gain/ (startplayers-leaving players team 1)

Back to the example with dota and 10 elo gain/loose with 2 leavers on 1 side and 1 on the other:

(5-2+1)*10/(5-2)= 4*10/3= 13,3 elo win

And if we substract starting elo 13,3-10-10=6,7 elo loss

If this is already implemented in ElO calculation please excuse me the time you needed to read that :)

And of cause numbers and formula could be changed just a quick idea.

greetz FTHGN

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Re: Leavers and the ELO-System

Postby cyberpunk » Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:12 pm

For what game?
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Re: Leavers and the ELO-System

Postby FTHGN » Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:17 pm

The example is for Dota but overall it should work for every game with ELO where it matters how the relation of players in your and the enemy team is.

So u could also do it for Legion td with the same calculation. Basicly it was my intention to find a way to make it more attractive for players to stay in game when several team members have left it.

Sure there is a risk of votekick abuse from stacked teams but that risk is in every game and bannable offense.

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Re: Leavers and the ELO-System

Postby cyberpunk » Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:42 pm

Yes, every game has an issue.
We are working on it. Thanks for your support.
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