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Calculate scores at beginning of game
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:44 am
by EdgeOfChaos
Currently the !scores command returns incorrect values after anyone leaves/drops. If the values for scores were calculated at game start then saved and displayed, instead of re-calculated every time someone types the command, it would show the right values. Some people get misled by this and think that leaving actually changes gained/lost ELO.
Re: Calculate scores at beginning of game
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:54 am
by SLSGuennter
Yeah. Often had people in my games which thought this would change the Elo given.
Also, this shouldnt be rly hard to implement.
Re: Calculate scores at beginning of game
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:14 am
by uakf.b
The problem is, the ELO is calculated by an entirely separate application than the host bots / website, and because some games have different ELO implementation it's hard to synchronize all of the components. Also the computation displayed on website is in different programming language. The !scores/website display were only added as convenience.
I don't understand about the leave/drop though. What game are you playing? For most things like LTD Mega, Battleships, DotA, leaver won't change the ELO since they'll still count to their team's average.
Re: Calculate scores at beginning of game
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:20 am
by nabo.
They are saying that if someone leaves and you type !score during the game, the displayed score changes, although the original score/elo gain/elo loss before the player left would be what you would actually get once game is over and stats are recorded.
Re: Calculate scores at beginning of game
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:33 am
by uakf.b
Oh sure, that's easy. But it still wouldn't be completely accurate, like high ELO players have less change.
Re: Calculate scores at beginning of game
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:54 pm
by argulle
uakf.b wrote:Oh sure, that's easy. But it still wouldn't be completely accurate, like high ELO players have less change.
Couldnt it be possible to show both current and original elo?
!Scores Elo Change: 15.00/15.00
!Scores Current Elo Change: 14.00 / 16.00
Original Elo Chaneg: 15.00 / 15.00
Like that?
Re: Calculate scores at beginning of game
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:58 pm
by uakf.b
@argulle what would be the point of that? The "current" ELO change has no meaning.
Re: Calculate scores at beginning of game
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:54 am
by argulle
uakf.b wrote:@argulle what would be the point of that? The "current" ELO change has no meaning.
It would be interesting to know. Its probably not neccessery, id rather just see the same ELO change even if someone leaves, or both.
Both suggestions would be better than how it is know, is my opinion, if you are going to do something about it
Re: Calculate scores at beginning of game
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:08 am
by aRt)Y
There's no public demand justifying the work.