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1) If LR is being discontinued, did the LR staff merge with Genesis? Rhemar joined too?
LR is presently being discontinued. Afaik Rhemar was the last one working on LR and after encountering the issue of persistent crashes is retiring to start a new project down the line. I think in the interim he is mostly focusing on his studies while the new project is still forming. I actually at one point brought some of the triggers I had refined in Genesis over to LR to help the map when Rhemar initially took over.
2) Are you the mapmaker of Genesis? If not, who is it now? Are they on ent forum?
Yes, I am one of the two mapmakers of Genesis, the other being Sukramo. I handle triggers, terrain, and am now working on the community building/management aspect (which is why I’m here). Sukramo works on balance and new content. I myself am generally not a ‘forum goer’ I have only about 320+ posts on Diplo despite working on the map for almost 2-3 years (on and off of course) and many of my posts are huge walls of text.
3) Why would people, not you, prefer Genesis over LR aside the fact that the map development will continue?
One of the fundamental differences in Genesis is that in the core game mode is that there are all even teams (we have a team of 3 mode and a 6v6 mode for competitive play). This was done by merging the High Elves with Dalaran to make Green the Dark Horde. This makes even 2v2 matches all around the map. Genesis also has a great deal more events for players to interact with not as much as Lordaeron the Aftermath for example but more than LR and Dark Ages of Warcraft (last time I checked Daow). On top of that Genesis is insanely polished -- tooltips, icon placement, and virtually no bugs despite the greater volume of content.
4) Does the current LR version have any problem(s)? Has the Genesis map been tested and is it stable/playable without known game breaking bugs
LR has very few problems afaik but I haven’t kept up with it as much as other haves. I know the LR community itself became divided with the introduction of Azeroth Wars Origins that reverts some of the changes Rhemar made while adding some polish to the map. The core file itself has no game breaking issues but there is a real divide that some people just don’t want to play LR and some don’t want to play Origins.
New content in Genesis is extensively tested before being released and the map is remarkably stable for its size and for the volume of content we have added. Much of my work on Genesis was refining the existing triggers that were left over in the open source file to make the map easier to edit over time (proper coding, use of arrays, commenting, etc). This was some of what I bought over to LR when it seemed that Genesis was infact going to be discontinued.
Linked for reference:
http://diplomunion.com/index.php?threads/hello.17393/http://diplomunion.com/index.php?threads/updates.17616/Genesis is stable and in a state I would consider the file quite read for autohost!
5) Currently only 100 azeroth games are being autohosted hosted weekely (did not check priv hosts). Wouldnt it be better just to replace the map and see as a trial and see the response?
As I mentioned in my other post and in the PM I think that switching it abruptly would upset people who maybe arn’t up to date in what's happening on Diplo and with the maps in general. There is also a conservative element of people who only want to play LR and almost refuse to try anything else outright (despite the greater volume of content and extreme polish). I’m not looking to ‘takeover’ but would like to see Genesis get a ‘fair chance’ which is why I suggested hosting them side by side so the players and numbers can speak for themselves. Or at the least so players have the option and they can wean themselves off LR. I myself worked on LR and in my thread on diplo have even shown the early stages of a ‘LR Mode’ that converts Green back to the High Elves and Teal as a solo race out of respect for LR and legacy it had.
I of course would be more than willing for a trial and to see the response but my guess would be the initial reaction would be a conservative backlash.
In terms of the MMH numbers the frequency of updating the map may actually hurt us there cause each version of course starts the counter over. The LR on MMH has been up there for a very long time but is probably hosted less frequently due to the ENT 41. It is only in hindsight that it would have been wise to record how many times each version of Genesis was hosted before uploading the new one.
Thanks again for your time, If you have any more questions feel free to ask! The walls of text were not as bad as I thought!
